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I know how much Big Sey means to our defense - believe me, I do.
And I know I took a thrashing for questioning this same issue last season.
And I know I recanted.
And I really want to love Seymour and believe he's all about team.
But, here we are again with Seymour.
Injured again.
I have to wonder if he's just a little soft or maybe a LOT self-centered.
NFL players play injured. That's a fact if life!
A little boo-boo on your elbow should not translate into missed games!
Or maybe he feels it is his right to take 3-4-5 games off per year.
I don't know.
Like I say, I want to be a big-time Seymour backer because I know how awesomely talented he is, but sometimes he just does not seem to, as they say, "get it".
Wilfork & Warren play all the same reps Seymour plays, and yet never seem to come up injured.
Seymour - at LEAST once a year, he misses games.
Thank God for Jarvis Green!
Plus, to make matters worse, Big Sey shows up on NEST standing in front of his locker wearing a GAHD-DAMM Yankee cap!
I swear, between the soft constitution and the friggin' NY cap, he's just TRYING to antagonize me!
Last edited by Armen Da Pats Fan; 10-27-2006 at 07:59 AM..
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This, to me, sounds like an ignorant judgment of a player with no facts. Have you seen the injury? Do you know it's minor? None of us have seen the replay. Seymour described it as gruesome and that he dodged a bullet. I think using the word 'booboo' to describe something you haven't seen and then going further to attack the character, effort, and toughness of one of the team captains of the Patriots based also on that injury that you haven't seen is pretty irresponsible.
This, to me, sounds like an ignorant judgment of a player with no facts. Have you seen the injury? Do you know it's minor? None of us have seen the replay. Seymour described it as gruesome and that he dodged a bullet. I think using the word 'booboo' to describe something you haven't seen and then going further to attack the character, effort, and toughness of one of the team captains of the Patriots based also on that injury that you haven't seen is pretty irresponsible.
No, I haven't done any in depth analysis on THIS particular injury.
I am more saying it just seems like every year with Richard, it's something, and it makes me question his toughness or willingness to play through pain.
Okay, I did find this, from this morning's Herald:
“As I went back and looked at the game, I definitely feel blessed and fortunate,” Seymour said. “It could have been worse than it was. I couldn’t even watch it on film. It was pretty gruesome. I feel blessed enough to come out of that situation and take it for what it is right now and continue to get better.”
Seymour had been tripped on the play and had his left arm planted toward the line of scrimmage when Harrison hit him flush on the elbow, viciously hyperextending it.
HE HYPERXETNDED HIS ELBOW AND HE MIGHT MISS A GAME?!?!?!?!?
I hyperextended my elbow reaching for the remote for my TV last night and I'm at work today!
LOL!
(And I'm not wearing a GAHD-DAMM Yankee cap, either!)
No, I haven't done any in depth analysis on THIS particular injury.
I am more saying it just seems like every year with Richard, it's something, and it makes me question his toughness or willingness to play through pain.
Plus, the Yankee cap!
ADPF
Players can play hurt. They can't play injured. From what I've seen Seymour has always injured ligaments or tendons. Those injuries are ones that, if played with, are easy to re-injure and cause further damage.
Players don't play with strained MCLs like he's suffered with the past few years.
I'm sure that with this elbow problem that if Sey is cleared to play, he'll play. If he's too INJURED to play, he won't play. If he's just hurt and the docs feel there's no risk for further injury we'll see him out there.
His elbow got bent in the wrong direction. Give the guy a break. Give the guy some credit.
Players can play hurt. They can't play injured. From what I've seen Seymour has always injured ligaments or tendons. Those injuries are ones that, if played with, are easy to re-injure and cause further damage.
Players don't play with strained MCLs like he's suffered with the past few years.
I'm sure that with this elbow problem that if Sey is cleared to play, he'll play. If he's too INJURED to play, he won't play. If he's just hurt and the docs feel there's no risk for further injury we'll see him out there.
His elbow got bent in the wrong direction. Give the guy a break. Give the guy some credit.
Dude, I SO want to be a big fan of his.
I just can't get over the fact that he is hurt so often.
Is this the third year in a row?
I put my chips on a gamer like Ty Warren. He's out there every Sunday - bumps, bruises and all...
And he doesn't parade around town in a Yankee cap!
Even Brady, an acknowledged San Fran Giants fan, knows enough to wear a SAWX cap!
“As I went back and looked at the game, I definitely feel blessed and fortunate,” Seymour said. “It could have been worse than it was. I couldn’t even watch it on film. It was pretty gruesome. I feel blessed enough to come out of that situation and take it for what it is right now and continue to get better.”
Seymour had been tripped on the play and had his left arm planted toward the line of scrimmage when Harrison hit him flush on the elbow, viciously hyperextending it.
HE HYPERXETNDED HIS ELBOW AND HE MIGHT MISS A GAME?!?!?!?!?
I hyperextended my elbow reaching for the remote for my TV last night and I'm at work today!
LOL!
(And I'm not wearing a GAHD-DAMM Yankee cap, either!)
ADPF
I believe, based on your responses that:
A) you're judging him more on his Yankee cap than anything he's done in a Patriots Jersey.
B) you've never had an injury playing team sports.
If you have had an injury playing team sports, then I don't see how you can mock a hyperextension. Particularly one categorized as vicious.
And until you actually see the replay, you're still going solely off of someone else's opinion to form your own.
I just can't get over the fact that he is hurt so often.
Is this the third year in a row?
I put my chips on a gamer like Ty Warren. He's out there every Sunday - bumps, bruises and all...
And he doesn't parade around town in a Yankee cap!
Even Brady, an acknowledged San Fran Giants fan, knows enough to wear a SAWX cap!
ADPF
I agree with you and I also have noticed that Seymour tends to be injured often but let's not judge him until he misses a game, for all we know he could be playing this week and this have played and started every game this year.
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In front of his team after a 28-10 loss to the Packers in 2002, Belichick said: "We have a lot of smart guys in this room, but on the football field we play like a bunch of f------- morons. If you are one of the players flinching at the harshness of these words, you might as well begin packing. There is no way you are going to last as a New England Patriot."
A) you're judging him more on his Yankee cap than anything he's done in a Patriots Jersey.
B) you've never had an injury playing team sports.
If you have had an injury playing team sports, then I don't see how you can mock a hyperextension. Particularly one categorized as vicious.
And until you actually see the replay, you're still going solely off of someone else's opinion to form your own.
Actually, I have the game TiVO'd, so as a due dilligence, I AM going to go home tonight and watch this "gruesome hyerpextension" on film.
And, I do play tournament level softball, which is really no big deal and NOTHING like the NFL, obviously, but my teammates & I have played in tourneys with all kinds of injuries.
In '03, I played with a strained quad in a championship and drove in 3 runs, including what was the eventual game-winner.