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Old 10-26-2006, 01:23 PM   #21
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The rule book online @ nfl.com is "not meant to be a substitute for the official rule book". Its a digest only. Just because we can't find it, does not preclude its existance. They are allowed to sod, as I understand it, because this is not a "change" in the turf, but simply maintenance to an existing playing field.
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Old 10-26-2006, 01:24 PM   #22
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Sigh, I always hated the artificial turf in old Schaefer Stadium. Now we are turning back the clock!?
Um, this new "FieldTurf" is nothing even remotely like the old astroturf which used to be commonly seen in stadiums across the NFL.

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Very discouraging news if true. Football should be played outdoors and on grass IMO.
I agree, but it isn't like the Patriots are currently playing on grass right now as things are.

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The rule book online @ nfl.com is "not meant to be a substitute for the official rule book". Its a digest only. Just because we can't find it, does not preclude its existance.
When this issue came up a few weeks ago, one of the reporters said it's a rule that's not written down anywhere. Believe it or not.
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Old 10-26-2006, 01:26 PM   #24
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Apparently the use of FieldTurf for soccer is hugely controversial, with some players refusing to play on it. This article "Don't use artificial grass in Toronto FC stadium" was posted on an MLS board concerning Toronto, apparently an MLS expansion team. Three extracts illustrate the controversy:
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“It (FieldTurf) kills the culture of the game,” said Julian de Guzman of Toronto, a midfielder with Canada's World Cup team and Spanish First Division club Deportivo La Coruna. “This stadium is supposed to be our new icon for soccer in the country, and the approach seems to be very cheap. It is a step backward in my eyes.”

De Guzman's Canadian teammate, Tottenham Hotspur defender Paul Stalteri of Brampton, Ont., also gives the surface bad reviews.

“The best salesman in the world couldn't sell me on it [FieldTurf],” he said. “I hope in my career I never have to play on it.”
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Charmaine Hooper of Ottawa, a veteran of Canada's national team, denied (chief operating officer Kevan) Pipe's claims of support from women players, saying she played on the surface last summer for the W-League's New Jersey Wildcats.

“I absolutely hate it,” said Hooper, 38. “These people who are passing or making it okay for us to play on these surfaces, they don't play on the stuff and they don't know. In general, most players don't like it.”

Hooper said her feet hurt after only a few days of playing on the surface. She said the surface soaks up heat, and the ball takes strange hops and doesn't run the same way as on real grass.
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Toronto FC head coach Maurice Johnston hopes to recruit some of Canada's top players for his club, and is aware of concerns regarding the playing surface.

“Any player who doesn't want to play on FieldTurf is not someone who we would be interested in having on our team,” Johnston said through a team spokesman.

That won't sit well with many of the club's potential signings, including national team and Houston Dynamo midfielder Dwayne De Rosario of Toronto.

“I am definitely 100-per-cent pro grass,” De Rosario said. “If they get grass in there instead of an artificial surface, it would be easier to draw better players and teams from Europe to play exhibition games and the fans will respect the team.”
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Apparently the use of FieldTurf for soccer is hugely controversial, with some players refusing to play on it. This article "Don't use artificial grass in Toronto FC stadium" was posted on an MLS board concerning Toronto, apparently an MLS expansion team.
Well let's see... Gillette Stadium hosts both soccer and football... so which sport should decide which turf is used...? The one the contributes 99% of the revenue to the stadium, or the one that contributes 1% of the revenue to the stadium...?
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Grassroots info, eh?
I love having a guy on the board that can get us the inside dirt.
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Apparently the use of FieldTurf for soccer is hugely controversial, with some players refusing to play on it.
The first quote is about "the culture of the game".
The second quote is from some chick whose "feet hurt" because of it.
The third quote is about recrutiing soccer players.

Nothing much to be worried about there.
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Yes of course this surface is a far cry from what once once installed in Foxboro. I realize that. It still seems like a step back rather than a step forward.

Does anybody know what stadiums have this surface installed? Also are the injury statisitics available for playing on this "FT" surface.

Don't like it one bit.

There should be a separate (smaller) stadium built for the Revolution IMO.

Or a better idea would be to disband the league and require all children to play baseball instead. Soccer is ruining the fabric of this country and the grass field in Foxboro!!

I am voting against soccer in the upcoming election BTW.
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Yes of course this surface is a far cry from what once once installed in Foxboro. I realize that. It still seems like a step back rather than a step forward.
Are you sure about that..? Have you actually seen any of the Patriots' home games so far this season..?

I've said this in other posts... I wouldn't recommend FieldTurf for San Diego or Arizona where the grass grows green year round, but I'd say it's much better than the dirt field the Pats have been using so far this season.

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There should be a separate (smaller) stadium built for the Revolution IMO.
The Revolution should play in Boston - probably Nickerson Field or any patch of grass that can seat 200 people in attendance.
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What about hiring somebody that actually knows how to grow grass? What about bringing in an engineering firm to review the "state of the art" drainage, heating and irrigation system. Don't forget this stadium was built by the "lowest bidder".
We had one of those guys, he quit. This stadium as it sits now could grow grass. While "low bid" can often get you the "low quality", all of the materials from the base to the root zone were screened, tested for spec's and approved before the were allowed in and every single layer was laser graded before the next one was brought in.
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