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Old 10-16-2006, 11:13 AM   #1
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If CJ gets over his injury that may change but for now it is true IMO. They can't get open. Branch seems to have found his timing w/MH and Stallworth did well with the Eagles as soon as he was acquired. Why didn't they need to work together to be productive?If you get open, Brady finds you and delivers the ball.
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Old 10-16-2006, 11:21 AM   #2
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I'm not ready to buy what you're selling yet - but, yes, they do have to get it going soon or I'll agree. To be fair, Givens and Twig had problems getting open against top defenses too - Brady often had lots of time and couldn't find a WR - so I'm not sure they were "that good". But with WR like Moss and Porter plus Stallworth before out there, we'll have to hope the front office made the right judgements here. Put me at 50-50 on this one.
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Old 10-16-2006, 11:24 AM   #3
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Why didn't they need to work together to be productive?
Different offense. Some offenses do not rely on changing routes based on what look the defense provides, and doesn't even require precise route running.

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If you get open, Brady finds you and delivers the ball.
You must be watching tapes of last year's games. This year Brady has missed the open man frequently.
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Old 10-16-2006, 11:28 AM   #4
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Let's not mix apples and oranges here. Just becuase another receiver has adjusted to their system faster doesn't mean squat. We always here about how coming to NE involves more adjustment time because everything is so much more complex. For example if you took algebra 1 in high school and then started with Calc 1 your freshman year in college. There is an adjustment period, and to me it looks like things are getting better---slowly, but they are getting better.

With that said i do think it's critical for CJ to become involved in the offense down the stretch as it will open more things up. Right now they need someone (whoever it ends up being) who can stretch the field. Becuase until the safety's fear getting burned, the middle of the field will remain tighter-thus forcing brady to throw into a lot smaller spaces with not much run after the catch.
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If CJ gets over his injury that may change but for now it is true IMO. They can't get open. Branch seems to have found his timing w/MH and Stallworth did well with the Eagles as soon as he was acquired. Why didn't they need to work together to be productive?If you get open, Brady finds you and delivers the ball.
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Jaworski has broken down some of the Patriots' game films, and he doesn't see one of those weaknesses being quarterback Tom Brady, despite Brady completing only 54 percent of his passes, one of the lowest marks in the league.

``When you look on tape, there is nothing wrong with Tom Brady," said Jaworski, a former quarterback. ``If there is a problem, it's that the windows to throw into are a lot smaller. It's more difficult when your only way to stretch the field is horizontally, not vertically.
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With that said i do think it's critical for CJ to become involved in the offense down the stretch as it will open more things up. Right now they need someone (whoever it ends up being) who can stretch the field. Becuase until the safety's fear getting burned, the middle of the field will remain tighter-thus forcing brady to throw into a lot smaller spaces with not much run after the catch.
I think you've hit the nail right on the head. It's probably over-dramatic to say so at this stage, but there's a part of me that is convinced the outcome of our entire season could depend on this.
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The WR's are fine, they just need to keep improving their chemistry with Brady. Once they all get on the same page there won't be much to worry about.
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I say give it some time, right now the offense could be doing better, but will let you know after the tenth game. Deion had a good game yesterday, but the Hawks have three other receivers who were with the team last year. To acclimate one receiver is much different that having three adjust. TB will make all of these guys better than they ever have been or could dream of being.
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I don't think that Stallworth and Branch are a valid comparision. In those cases teams are trying to intergrate one new reciever into their system. This is a much easier adjustment. With the Patriots, Brady is trying to adjust to completely new group of recievers. Even the ones who have been here (Brown, Watson) are being used in a different role. That being said I still don't think we know if these recievers are good enough to get us to the Super Bowl. Only time will tell, I think they will certainly get better but how much better remains to be seen.
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