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Old 10-01-2006, 08:38 PM   #1
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Three players weren't playing very well as defensive backs: Gay, Wilson and Sanders. The question was the wuality of outr backups. We found out today. Props to Chad Scott, Hawkins and Poteat.

I want Hobbs back as a healthy starter. However, I'm content with having Wilson as a backup. Sanders may never see the field except in garbage time.
We again have depth!!! Seriously, Poteat has replaced Gay, and Hawkins and Chad Scott have demonstrated that we have a deep secondary.

We now have the following depth chart
CB: Samuel,Hobbs,Scott,Poteat
S: Harrison,Hawkins,Wilson
S/ST: Andrews,Sanders,Spann

We do indeed have serious depth, with six starting quality defensive backs.
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Old 10-01-2006, 08:43 PM   #2
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We do indeed have serious depth, with six starting quality defensive backs.
We have bodies but not a lot of impact players. They played well today but I'm not exactly wow'ed by their consistency or take away potential.

There are a lot of question marks back there.
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Old 10-01-2006, 08:56 PM   #3
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I don't think Wilson will be supplanted as a starter.
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Hobbs is a good nickel back, but as a starter, he sucks and is far too small for today's bigger receivers, espercially on quick insde moves off of the line of scrimmage. He can not cover them at his size.
Hobbs is going to be the Patriots' best CB by the end of the next season if not this one. Despite continual wet dreams fans have about size at CB the league has a lot more 5'10" quality CBs than 6'4" ones.

Moreoever Hobbs is more physical and a better tackler than Samuel so I don't know where you're coming from with this.
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I suspect that you are correct. Personally, I would start Hawkins.

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Watch the games more closely. Teams will go after Hobbs continually inside, and he HAS to make the tackles cause his guy has already caught the ball.
No offense but sometimes I think you see things in your head that just haven't happened. Like when you said CJ made that jump ball catch over 3 guys against NYJ. There was only one defender. And that the Pats small CB's were continually getting beat on 3rd downl slants(after the NYJ game). I counted one after watching again yesterday. You blame McDaniels for his play calling and want him canned, but you have absolutely no idea if he's the one making the calls.

Anyway, I thought the secondary did a great job, but alot of it had to do with the good constant pass rush. There were a couple of plays though where there was no pass rush and Palmer still had no place to go.

I also think that Hobbs makes our secondary better, but Wilson is just too inconsistent.

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IWe understand that your opinion is that Hobbs sux. Obviously, you think that bb is a lousy judge of defensive backs. However, he makes the decisions, and be believes that Hobbs has a future as a starter. Also, contrary to popular opinion, pioli knew how tall Hobbs was BEFORE we drafted him to be a future starter. In any case, we should find out what we have. If necessary, Scott can start in the playoffs. The bottom line is that if the decision is close, Hobbs should start and get the experience.

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Why bring Hobbs back as a starter. I wouldnt. The players we had out there today did a hell of a job. Why change what looks good? Hobbs can get beatn 9 out of ten times with quick inside moves.....

If something is working, you dont fix it. What we had out there today worked..... Why change it? That would be idiotic.

Hobbs is a good nickel back, but as a starter, he sucks and is far too small for today's bigger receivers, espercially on quick insde moves off of the line of scrimmage. He can not cover them at his size.
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Despite continual wet dreams fans have about size at CB the league has a lot more 5'10" quality CBs than 6'4" ones.
I don't think all fans feel this way - its just a vocal minority that believes a 5'10" CB cannot be effective.

Most fans realize that 6'2" guys with CB skills aren't CBs - they're WRs.
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hobbs has been our best corner this year tard. reason he shut down lee evans and lined up on their best WR all game

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To be honest I don't know who should play. I don't know if it was a perfectly executed scheme by the players and coaches? Or if Hawkins is just a better player than Wilson etc Hobb's,Gay etc?

All I know is we won the game and played a real good game all around. Much better than I anticipated. Hopefully the team will build off of this and make the appropriate moves like they have over the last 5 years. I'm not losing any sleep over it and neither should anybody else but the coaches and players. That's what they are paid to do. All I expect is a satellite controller and a cold beer to be in my hand every Sunday. And of course a couple of Mondays.
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