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Mike: I apologize for piling on, since your quote has been very rebuked to this point, but let me try to offer an objective reason why I think you are not 100% correct here.
We all realize in our heart that many of the Pats players are not Hall of Fame players or the absolute best at their position, but when they are a Patriot, we root for them. If they choose to remain a Pat for slightly less than they might get from a desperate team, we really appreciate them for that. Like Seymour, Brady, Bruschi, Troy Brown, Matt Light, ect...
If they leave town on good terms, like most Ex-players, we don't hold it against them when they cash in for a big paycheck.
Branch and at least one other player did none of the above. Branch dishonored his contract, held out of camp, allowed his agent to verbally abuse the Patriots in the media, refused to negotiate AT ALL with the Pats, set a bad precident for the other players, drummed up false grievances against the team that put Branch on the map.
Uh, Seymour did the same thing - only difference is the Pats eventually caved. So, how is his behavior any different than Branch's? If it's the holdout that you claim justify ridiculing Branch, why don't you guys do the same to Seymour? After all, he held out just the same, while under contract, and said some not-so-flattering things about the Pats in the media.
The reason we can find shortcomings in these guys when they leave town is not that those shortcomings don't exist all along, but that we overlook their shortcomings when they are playing for our team.
You are right that some of the negativity is over the top, just like some of the positivity is over the top when these guys play for the Pats. We are all homers here.
So why does someone get crucified for pointing that out?
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All of these Branch bashing threads are ridiculous and show a lack in character. The guy wanted to get paid and saw this as an opportunity of a lifetime to maximize his worth and he accomplished just that. Deion gave his all for this franchise and things didn't work out in the end. He helped the Patriots win two championships and was always embodied what "Patriot football" is all about.
Just wish him the best of luck, personally, while rooting for his team to lose every week so we can get a better pick. All of the vitriol seems misplaced and rather petty. Time to grow up, I say.
"I have a microscope and my microscope is very big." - Randy Moss
Try to follow along with your own posts, will ya? Your opinion of him as a PERSON may have changed due to the holdout, but you and everyone else here was continuing to say how good of a player he is, and how valuable to the team he is - up until the trade, where now all of a sudden he's a washed up loser.
You seem to have no idea what you've said in the past, such as in this thread: Why don't Pats match Hawks deal for DB?
Where you were calling for the Pats to match Seattle's offer, and saying:
"Right now, they are negotiating a deal to Seattle for maybe a 1st round picks and a middle round pick. OK. That's an acceptable ending. But not a really good one for the Patriots, is it? I mean - why is Seattle willing to do that? Because they have major talent issues at wide receiver, want to be successful, and know Branch is very very good."
So, just over a week ago, he was very, very good according to you, and we should have matched the offer Seattle made, and it wouldn't have been a good deal for the Pats to make the trade - even though you were assuming we'd get a first rounder AND a middle round pick? But now the theme is that he's not all he's cracked up to be, the Pats are better off making the trade, etc.. Try a little consistency for once, eh?
Sure, nobody has explicitly said that, but it's clearly the theme of what people are thinking. It's been that way with practically everyone who gets traded or cut. Same way with Seau. When Miami signed him, people like you were calling him washed up, etc.. The Pats sign him, and he's the second coming of LT.
duh..........I wish I could speak more slowly for you but it's a computer.....
everybody recognizes deion branch is a fine, talented receiver......duh....
got it????????? ...do I need to type that again????
we all know he's very good. ok??? you can think about that for awhile.
meantime, it's doesn't change our points einstein. he's not proven himself to be one of the best in the league and a game-breaker, and there will be tremendous expectations on him now that's he's demanded such a big contract. and because he made such a stink about how much he derserved to be paid, it is humourous to those of us who get it to watch him squirming now as the pressure to produce becomes apparant to him.
as far as you goody two-shoes who don't want any critisizm of deion, don't read it if you don't like it. what he did and how he's acted has shown me a side to him I have no respect for, so the deion I thought I knew is not the deion I know now. if you feel differently, good for you.
of course his teammates are gonna stick by him, love him, and see his side of it. but that's because they are all in it together and can sympathize with his wanting more dough. but I see it management's siud emuch more than the players ever will, and from a fan of the teams' perspective, I resent what he did to this team. you feel differently? go ahead. but your not 'correct' for doing so, it's just the way you see things.
Got to disagree with part of this. The reason that Branch is despicable are really obvious. He DID NOT honor his contract to the Pats, who put him on the map. They drafted him, coached him, and helped him become a SB MVP.
Dude, Seymour DID THE SAME THING. SO, why don't you consider him despicable?
One reason - he's still a Pat. Face it, you guys have no ability to objectively judge ANY player in the NFL, based on the simple fact that you praise someone when they're a Patriot, and crucify them when they're not.
If you don't get why Branch and his agent have been ruthless and dishonorable throughout this process, then I got nothin'.
You clearly don't get why YOU don't like him anymore. If the reason were what you claim, you would feel the same about Seymour.
As much as people complain about Peyton Manning, if he became a Patriot, you guys would suddenly be saying he's the best quarterback ever.
I will never, ever, under any circumstances, call Peyton Manning one of the best ever until he proves he has the ability to perform at the highest level in the biggest of games. I don't care what logo happens to be on his helmet.
Ah, I'm a troll now. You people are really pathetic.
Seymour did the same thing - why aren't people calling Seymour a "weasel", "slimy loser", "typical classless jock", and so on? The ONLY difference is that Seymour was successful in his holdout, getting the Pats to fold and give him a new contract. So the ONLY difference between how Seymour and Branch handled their contracts is that Seymour is still a Pat, while Branch was traded. Claiming that you're dissing Branch because of how he handled his contract dispute is clearly wrong, since otherwise you should be saying the same things of Seymour - which nobody is.
Face it, my initial post in this thread was spot on.
Willie is a rare exception, as far as people not saying that about him - probably because he played here soooo long, and because he's playing for RC now.
You need to go through puberty.
Sure. The same way people said Seau was washed up when Miami signed him, and are now saying completely different things since the Pats signed him.
Right. Get a clue.
Sure, I must have no idea what I'm talking about. I'm the one who predicted the PAts would take Watson at 32 in the draft a couple years ago. Was that "trolling"?
Sweet and i told my dad we should take Maroney, do you want a cookie?
seymour's situation was not the same as Branch's.
Seymour is leagues ahead of Branch as a player and way more valuable to this team.
Seymour actually tried to make this work instead of not even producing a counter offer and he didnt have his agent make the pats look like *******s.
Seymour didn't bring up feeding his kids.
Seymour didn't turn this whole thing into a cluster-****.
Just becuase they both Held out for more money does not make it the same thing.
when you remove your head from Branch's ass, get back to me.
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Dude, Seymour DID THE SAME THING. SO, why don't you consider him despicable?
No, Seymour didn't do the same thing. Seymour held out for a very brief period of time while continuing to negotiate with the Patriots in 100% good faith. Branch cut off all lines of communication and did not act in good faith.
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"Four years ago he nearly lost one of his newborn twin sons, Deiondre, to spinal meningitis. The baby was in a hospital being kept alive by machines. "I think [Deion] was having to decide whether it was time to unplug," says Bradley, when a "miracle" occurred. The infant suddenly responded to treatment.
On Sunday, Deiondre was chasing his brother, Deiontey, around a Super Bowl field of confetti. Now his father holds on tightly to anything that comes his way -- spirals and sons."
For Branch, the toughest hurdle
Patriots star reflects on son's struggle
By Jackie MacMullan, Globe Staff | January 7, 2006
He only sees Deiondre and Deiontey, his twin sons born prematurely four years ago. He sees Deiondre hooked up to machines, battling meningitis, clinging to life as his tiny lungs strain to breathe. It is a memory he cannot -- will not -- erase.
''I was so young when it happened," said Branch Thursday afternoon in a private moment before preparations for New England's first-round playoff game against the Jacksonville Jaguars tonight at Gillette Stadium in Foxborough. ''I was 21 years old. It was scary. I was trying to make sense of it."
Branch, talking publicly for the first time about his son's condition,
agreed to do so only on the condition that the specifics and the
timetable of his treatment was kept confidential. How do you make sense of two children so eagerly anticipated, born
within minutes of one another, one healthy, one who quickly became critically ill? Deion and Danyld Lynch, the children's mother, were overwhelmed with conflicting emotions. The joy of the births was soon trampled by the fear and uncertainty surrounding Deiondre's future. And yet, Deion quickly realized, their son was not alone. The hospital in Kentucky was teeming with sick infants.
''You walk through the ICU and you see these tiny little babies, just 2 and 3 pounds, with all these tubes sticking out of them," Branch said.
''It stays with you. There was this one little girl who weighed about 2 pounds 2 ounces. She was so small, and her tiny little heart was pumping so fast, trying to hang on . . . I don't know if she made it. I don't know if any of those kids made it."
Deiontey was lucky. Although he and his brother weighed 4 pounds 8 ounces at birth, he responded quickly to the special care afforded premature infants. Each day, he grew stronger, while his brother deteriorated. Meningitis is a cruel disease. It strikes silently, ferociously, without warning. The diagnosis was dire. Even if he lived, Deiondre had already suffered massive brain damage. The doctors told Deion and Danyld their son would likely never walk, talk, smile, laugh, cry, or even dream.