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***mgcolby*** · 09-01-2006, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Remix 6

heres what Jets say

The guy has been consistent for the past 3 seasons and after one training camp under Mangini he suddenly sucks? I'm not buying it. And saying he is an average receiver isn't an insult in this scenario becasue we know Brady can suddenly make an average receiver look above average.

Remix 6 · 09-01-2006, 11:43 AM

^shows how Brady made Caldwell look during preseason so far hasnt it? Hes average aswell..how about Andre Davis? Or Bethel? They were average..how good did he make them? shhhhhhhhhhhh

Pats67 · 09-01-2006, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by The Next One

It's also interesting to note that, per that rotoworld page, the Jets would take a 4 million dollar salary cap hit for dealing him. It makes it seem unlikely that he'd be involved in any deal.

Yeah, I was surprised that they didn't make that link. Taken seperately, it sounds like McCareins has worked his way out of the doghouse after a rough start, but that 4M hit trumps everything it seems to me.

I just don't think he qualifies as a 'pretty good player', whatever the hell that phrase means.

***mgcolby*** · 09-01-2006, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks

That was my first thought when I heard the JETS name mentioned as one of two offers. Will be a good opportunity to prove or disprove the Deion Branch theory. Noodle is Noodle at best and at worst he's Rob Johnson or a rookie before mid season.

Wounded/failed/rookie QB, new tiny WR whose skill set is predicated on QB savvy, no RB, barely dug their way temporarily out of cap hell by trading an all pro DE and reworking contracts like mad (Chad's will come back and bite them with incentives if he plays), rookie OC, rookie HC.....

Do it. It sucks for Tommy on a personal level, but he's going to the HOF because he can win without elite weapons and not overpaying for Branch will allow BB to acquire more football players to whom winning matters going forward.

I forgot they drafted Clemmons, I think he will be good. But I agree pull the trigger unless the Seahawks are offering someone better and not a receiver we don't need the Pats receivers comind down with a case of Seahawk-itis.

***Clonamery*** · 09-01-2006, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mgcolby

The guy has been consistent for the past 3 seasons and after one training camp under Mangini he suddenly sucks? I'm not buying it. And saying he is an average receiver isn't an insult in this scenario becasue we know Brady can suddenly make an average receiver look above average.

I'm saying I've watched him play and he's not 'a pretty good player.'

I'll take the draft pick and trust whatever else happens but you won't like player and his hamstring that is continually tweaked.

***mgcolby*** · 09-01-2006, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Remix 6

^shows how Brady made Caldwell look during preseason so far hasnt it? Hes average aswell..how about Andre Davis? Or Bethel? They were average..how good did he make them? shhhhhhhhhhhh

Shhhhhh what? Why do you have to argue like an ass all the time? Do you find that juvenile **** funny?

But since were playing the game please refer back to Patten, Givens and Dwight (See how that works?). All average players that Brady made better. But he also has made Stone and Childress look good this pre-season but why let that get in the way.

Vataha · 09-01-2006, 11:49 AM

Here's another point of view

http://ledger.southofboston.com/arti...s/sports02.txt

***mgcolby*** · 09-01-2006, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Clonamery

I'm saying I've watched him play and he's not 'a pretty good player.'

I'll take the draft pick and trust whatever else happens but you won't like player and his hamstring that is continually tweaked.

That is fine, I respect your opinion. We will just have to agree to disagree on this one.

Remix 6 · 09-01-2006, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mgcolby

Shhhhhh what? Why do you have to argue like an ass all the time? Do you find that juvenile **** funny?

But since were playing the game please refer back to Patten, Givens and Dwight (See how that works?). All average players that Brady made better. But he also has made Stone and Childress look good this pre-season but why let that get in the way.

Stone has looked good? must of missed it? Childress in AZ game sure but so did Cassell

Dwight had 600+ yard season before and quiet a lot of 400 yards..he really didnt look above average here .. or at least not different than the rest of his career

Patten i can agree somewhat on but i give you the Givens. But what about Caldwell? He was average-good..we'll have to wait and see

***mgcolby*** · 09-01-2006, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Remix 6

Stone has looked good? must of missed it? Childress in AZ game sure but so did Cassell

Dwight had 600+ yard season before and quiet a lot of 400 yards..he really didnt look above average here .. or at least not different than the rest of his career

Patten i can agree somewhat on but i give you the Givens. But what about Caldwell? He was average-good..we'll have to wait and see

I wasn't a big Caldwell fan from the get go on that deal. I figured he had shown potential in SD but never fullfilled it. I am still not ready to throw in the towel on him, yet. Mostly because of the reports that were coming out early in camp. I hope he finds whatever it is that he lost since then and plays well. Look I don't think McCrariens is going to come here and set the world on fire but I think he would fit in well with our scheme and could catch more than fifty balls. Which would be adequate in replacing Branch especially if Watson can stay healthy all season. And of course the mysterious wild card Jackson.

Maybe I reached a little on Stone.