BSMW takes aim at BCN Pats show - New England Patriots Forums

***PatsRI*** · 08-29-2006, 07:11 AM

http://www.bostonsportsmedia.com/

Good take. Talks about how in Milori's column Tanguay says they aren't Pom-Pom wavers.

From BSMW:
Here's a little tip though, guys. When a team goes out and dominates like the Patriots did on Saturday night, and you're on the air going out of your way trying to find things to criticize so that you won't be a "ball-washer", you just sound like an idiot...Being objective is great, but for so many media types, it means being "critical". They're not the same thing

Oswlek · 08-29-2006, 07:43 AM

I wasn't going to start a new thread with this because it just feeds their egos, but since one has been started already...

Out here in Western MA, if I want to listen to any sports talk prior to the game, I can choose FSR, which is probably still talking about T.O. right now, or WBCN and at least here something on the Pats. Sadly, it's not even that hard of a decision. During this pre-game show, the board's arch-nemesis had this to say:

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"In my dealings with the league, I hear this this all the time; 'Bill Belichick and Scott Pioli are too smart by a half.' What this means, of course, is that they aren't really any smarter than anyone else, they just think they are."

and this

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"They just come across as disengenuous and cheap"

Both refer to NE's FO in their dealings with Branch.

Gresh also had a long-winded (is there any other way?) point about how many of Brady's passes last year went to WRs, and DB in particular. It was actually pretty well reasoned, but it ignored the differences in the situations. In 2005, NE

* Couldn't run the ball. It is so much easier to get TEs involved in the passing game if the D respects the run.

* Lost Graham for much of the season due to injury. Even when he played, he was still hurt and he had to help the OL with all of their injuries.

* Didn't have anywhere near the TE weapons that they have now. Thomas and Mills for Fauria; Watson looks much better; Graham will hopefully stay healthy.

* I mentioned it above, but it deserves its own point. The OL was in shambles, so that pulled a lot of TE passing plays out of the playbooks.

* Faulk missed 9 games. Dillon missed 4, Pass proved nearly useless after the first Buffalo game. Think that migh account for the lack of passes to RBs?

Nobody brought up any of these counterpoints.

kptmorgan04 · 08-29-2006, 07:49 AM

I wont listen to anything that has ron borges on board, he just pisses me off when the whole object of listening and watching a football team is enjoyment... I like Zolak, but will am looking forward to listening to the new WEEI broadcast.

Ichiro · 08-29-2006, 08:06 AM

I've been over this issue before. Its a disgrace that the Patriots sponsor this show on BCN. Last week, listening to Gresh, I almost brokedown after the Redskins game. The amount of Patriot bashing was too much. Gresh is a Steeler fan. I'm an objective fan but the combination of Borges and Gresh is horrible. It would be like if Pete Sheppard and Fred Smerlas hosted a Indianapolis Colts show.
I wrote an e-mail to the Pats front office via their website. I encourage everyone who feels the same to send in their thoughts on the matter. Hopefully our combined voices can make a change.

Slagathor · 08-29-2006, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by kptmorgan04

I wont listen to anything that has ron borges on board, he just pisses me off when the whole object of listening and watching a football team is enjoyment... I like Zolak, but will am looking forward to listening to the new WEEI broadcast.

The Boston sports media is being filled with a bunch of hacks. Specifically the guys covering the Pats.

I'm actually puzzled at the fact that the Krafts apparently rubber-stamped WBCN's pre and post broadcast crew.

These guys are horrible!

Some of fat-Gresh's analysis (who annoys me to no end-as I can stand people who yell incessantly):

"There is no way Patick Pass in not on this team." Altough I think Pass will still be on the team, I think the rise of Cobbs may make Pass expendable. On that note he also doesn't see Pass making the team at all.

Also-"Randall Gay is won make the cut".

No offense but I expect at least a little bit of Yahoo-ism on my home teams broadcasts. I get some much negativity on the gteam from other mediums, I'd like to have someone out there promote the team a little bit.

Hoodie · 08-29-2006, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Ichiro

I've been over this issue before. Its a disgrace that the Patriots sponsor this show on BCN. Last week, listening to Gresh, I almost brokedown after the Redskins game. The amount of Patriot bashing was too much. Gresh is a Steeler fan. I'm an objective fan but the combination of Borges and Gresh is horrible. It would be like if Pete Sheppard and Fred Smerlas hosted a Indianapolis Colts show.
I wrote an e-mail to the Pats front office via their website. I encourage everyone who feels the same to send in their thoughts on the matter. Hopefully our combined voices can make a change.

Or maybe they'll read our comments on this board. the BCN pregrame show is awful. Zolak is ok but Gresh is a loud mouth and a blowhard and I can't believe the Pats employ that other idiot. I don't even want to say his name.

Hoodie · 08-29-2006, 08:35 AM

BTW -- Molori's got to be kidding when he calls Tomase "brave" for asking BB a question after he said he wouldn't talk about it. Is it brave to irritate the interviewee so that he walks off the stage and you get zero additional info?

Reporters are supposed to be resourceful. I think he could have handled it a different way.

Drewwho · 08-29-2006, 10:24 AM

The BCN Show is a complete waste of time for anyone!

All they talked about Saturday night was Brady missed receivers and he looked off and on and on they went. Tanguay and the other morons on that show mentioned it about 1000 times. Like last year, it will be just a matter of time they bring up the Brady is hurt crap. Yeah, he was hurt'in big time in leading the league with over 4000 passing yards.

Tanguay is a completed idiot - as are Zolak and that other moron who I don't even remember the name of - you know the guy that looks like Jaba the Hut!

How, H O W do these guys keep getting work???? Anyone!?!?!?!?

Slagathor · 08-29-2006, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Drewwho

The BCN Show is a complete waste of time for anyone!

All they talked about Saturday night was Brady missed receivers and he looked off and on and on they went. Tanguay and the other morons on that show mentioned it about 1000 times. Like last year, it will be just a matter of time they bring up the Brady is hurt crap. Yeah, he was hurt'in big time in leading the league with over 4000 passing yards.

Tanguay is a completed idiot - as are Zolak and that other moron who I don't even remember the name of - you know the guy that looks like Jaba the Hut!

How, H O W do these guys keep getting work???? Anyone!?!?!?!?

I think alot of these guys like Tanguay, get jobs because they've got good pipes.

Tanguay, Dickerson and Jabba are all part of the same talentless clique.

They seem to want to emulate guys like Borges and Felger, so what you end up with are these brainless contrarians.

One thing I can guarantee you is none of these guys does their homework.

zippo59 · 08-29-2006, 10:51 AM

Smerlas and DeOssie are by far my favorite analysts of the Pats. I try to listen to them at any opportunity I can. Smerlas is somewhat of a homer but he gets me excited about the Pats and he actually gives good information and analysis. Same with DeOssie except he is much less of a homer; he picked the Colts to win in the divisional playoff game against us in 2005 and still hasn't lived it down.