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Old 08-29-2006, 11:00 AM   #11
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BTW -- Molori's got to be kidding when he calls Tomase "brave" for asking BB a question after he said he wouldn't talk about it. Is it brave to irritate the interviewee so that he walks off the stage and you get zero additional info?

Reporters are supposed to be resourceful. I think he could have handled it a different way.
It's his job as a beat reporter to ask tough questions that are newsworthy, not ask what number some stiff will be wearing. Patriots fans aren't used to it because all the media cowards are scared of Belichick but that's the way it is in every other city. Good reporters ask tough questions. I don't particularly love Thomase but I give him credit for asking about the news instead of, "Bill, can you asses the running game?"
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Old 08-29-2006, 11:08 AM   #12
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It's his job as a beat reporter to ask tough questions that are newsworthy, not ask what number some stiff will be wearing. Patriots fans aren't used to it because all the media cowards are scared of Belichick but that's the way it is in every other city. Good reporters ask tough questions. I don't particularly love Thomase but I give him credit for asking about the news instead of, "Bill, can you asses the running game?"
It's not the fact that he asked the question, it was the time and place that he asked it. It was a post-game press conference, meabing Belichick was supposed to be talking about THE GAME. In that case questions about his assessment of the running game are completely appropriate while questions about Branch's holdout are not. Belichick holds pretty much daily press conferences where issues like that can be discussed. I would imagine that the press conference he held after the unveiling of the news was pretty much predominantly about that, so it's not like he hasn't talked about it.
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Old 08-29-2006, 11:08 AM   #13
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It's his job as a beat reporter to ask tough questions that are newsworthy, not ask what number some stiff will be wearing. Patriots fans aren't used to it because all the media cowards are scared of Belichick but that's the way it is in every other city. Good reporters ask tough questions. I don't particularly love Thomase but I give him credit for asking about the news instead of, "Bill, can you asses the running game?"
Bullsh**. The reporters job is to get the story. And anybody worth their salt knows you get nothing from Belichick in that situation. "Asking the tough question" is all about appearances. Notice the guys who "ask the tough questions" seem to turn up on every radio and TV show in the six-state region. I don't suppose those two things are related, do you?
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Old 08-29-2006, 11:11 AM   #14
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It's his job as a beat reporter to ask tough questions that are newsworthy, not ask what number some stiff will be wearing. Patriots fans aren't used to it because all the media cowards are scared of Belichick but that's the way it is in every other city. Good reporters ask tough questions. I don't particularly love Thomase but I give him credit for asking about the news instead of, "Bill, can you asses the running game?"
No it is not! most football towns sugarcoat their team with a few exceptions, New York, Washington (the post but only because they hate Snyder) and Dallas, there may be one or two more but most small market teams get by with relative ease.

But for some reason you consitently confuse what the role of the media is. Yes, it is to ask tough questions and to be objective, it is not meant to be an entire op-ed piece (which you seem to prefer). The point of this thread is to show that most of the folks who cover the Pats in Boston are in either one or both of two camps. 1. They hate the Pats FO because they don't do their job for them. 2. They are complete idiots when it comes to football or are unprepared so they look like idiots (either way). In Gresh's case you could create a third category and say they would rather cover another team.

The more you post the more I believe you are Borges you hate the most respected Pats beat writer and defend the clueless ***holes, sometimes to such a degree that you come across as personally offended by our criticism of certain writer's.
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Bullsh**. The reporters job is to get the story. And anybody worth their salt knows you get nothing from Belichick in that situation. "Asking the tough question" is all about appearances. Notice the guys who "ask the tough questions" seem to turn up on every radio and TV show in the six-state region. I don't suppose those two things are related, do you?
Totally correct.

After 6 years with BB was Tomase expecting Bill to say, "Well John, here's what going on with the Deion Branch situation....."

Tomase's questions was nothing but self-serving, and an opportunity for him to get a bunch of "atta-boys" from his fellow scribes.

It maybe the job of the media to get the story, but they also have to recognize that the Patriots, as a business, have established a code of coduct with reagrds to how they deal with their players.
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Old 08-29-2006, 11:44 AM   #16
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Speaking of media hacks, did anyone else notice Joe Theismann's brilliant insight after Bret Favre fumbled on his first touch? Joe opined,

"Bret did NOT want to put the ball on the ground."

Really, Joe? I thought he did it on purpose.
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And Thomase has broken stories that Belichick doesn't want out there and that's the reason he doesn't like him. He can't tame him like he can Reiss and some of the others out there and it's killing him. I just think it's funny that you guys think Reiss asking about Hank freaking Poteat getting cut for the 10th straight year is "getting the news." Anyone who has guts and doesn't bow down to Belichick, you guys say has an agenda but if they bend over like Reiss does, they're great reporters. That's comical. If I want to know what is wrong with Bruschi, I'll read Thomase. If I want to know what number the next useless free agent the Pats sign is going to wear, I'll check out Reiss' blog.
Let's be honest here. Thomase isn't reporting about atrocities in the middle east. No information that the Pats are witholding is a threat to national interest safety and security.

He's a sports reporter. If the team and BB decide that they don,t want specific info divulged, that's the way it should be.

Although I'd like to hear about some of the inside activities going on with the team, I'm not gonna jump off a bridge because I don't know the severity of Jackson's hammy injury.

The only reason Thomase requires this is because it's his dumb job to do so. If Belichick is pissed because information he doesn't want divulged leaks out, then Thomase desrves to be treated like a turd.
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It's his job as a beat reporter to ask tough questions that are newsworthy, not ask what number some stiff will be wearing. Patriots fans aren't used to it because all the media cowards are scared of Belichick but that's the way it is in every other city. Good reporters ask tough questions. I don't particularly love Thomase but I give him credit for asking about the news instead of, "Bill, can you asses the running game?"
What ridiculous pablum IRB. Read the 'Skins press. Never a hard word is said, and every day for 365 days a year, there are at least one and usually three articles on the Skins including the end of February, March off season.

You think tough reporting is merely "*****ing"? That is not journalism of any sort... And sports is fun and relaxation and escapism from day to day important issues. . Quite frankly I don't give a ruddy damn who is sleeping in whose bed; what some posturing agent said; or even how much a guy is getting paid. And certainly I subscribe to the old dictum, I don't want to see laws, sausage or contracts being made, close up...
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