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Old 08-13-2006, 08:01 AM   #41
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Old 08-13-2006, 08:02 AM   #42
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BB has always managed to find LB in Aug who fit the system...ie Phiffer..
Vrabel...Colvin..and I can only hope that we see that happen soon...Hey what bout Andy Katzenmoyer??
"Andy Katzenmoyer".. Wow.. Did someone drink to much last night?
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I'm in the 'jury's still out' on Monty and most every other camp player. But a leading indicator of what BB is thinking will be if he signs a vet ILB early this week. Maybe it's just for competition or insurance for a slow Bruschi recovery and maybe not.
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BB has always managed to find LB in Aug who fit the system...ie Phiffer..
Vrabel...Colvin..and I can only hope that we see that happen soon...Hey what bout Andy Katzenmoyer??
I know Phifer was in June.

I severely doubt we picked up the others in August. (??)

Katz was drafted. He sure wasn't in an August supplemental.
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Based on Friday's game, it looks like the Pats will have to shift Bob

Vrable back to the inside and hope one of their young outside linebackers

can emerge as a starter.

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If the linebackers continue the same for two more games, I agree Vrabel will move inside. Chad Brown will likely start with Colvin, sharing time with Banta-Cain, Mincey and Woods.

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I'm in the 'jury's still out' on Monty and most every other camp player. But a leading indicator of what BB is thinking will be if he signs a vet ILB early this week. Maybe it's just for competition or insurance for a slow Bruschi recovery and maybe not.

Wow.. If u believe there is any chance with Monty.. I have a car to sell u

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"Andy Katzenmoyer".. Wow.. Did someone drink to much last night?
Really sticking his neck out on that one.

Haw.

Okay this suggests to me 2 things:

1) We're just flat running low on LBs we can happily field, at least as far as fan evaluation goes. If fan evaluation in any way resembles BB eval, we're going to cut our ILB woes in half and go with the 4-3 (I guess that would also mean going one-gap for the linemen, and therefore make Seymour's function something a mere mortal can handle, until Sey is back.)

2) That being the case: we have our guys up front much more involved with the stops, and (fanfare) give the MLB the opportunity to play in space - that's Tedy, or Donnie Edwards (which ain't gonna happen, just because anything fans want to happen that bad, won't, because said fans get the idea stuck in their heads without knowing what coaches see.)

What would also be cool is a 2-gap 3-4 like we've had in the past, but with the lightbulb actually going on in Beisel's helmet.

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Good posts, folks; I generally agree with all of them.
The most complimentary word I can use to describe Mr.Beisel is: tentative. He appears to just not want to play on the inside, where bodies are flying everywhere, and danger is ever-present. (Neither would I, really. Then again, I'm 5'09", 160.) The sooner BB realizes this basic fact, the sooner the ILB situation can be fixed. I still, perhaps foolishly, believe that the best use of the available talent is Beisel at OLB and Dan Klecko at ILB. As of right now, the best ILB, besides Bruschi, is Mike Vrabel. An OLB rotation Colvin, Beisel, TBC, Mincey, Woods and (if healthy) Chad Brown, while by no means perfect, is currently the best option. Vrabel would man the ILB with Bruschi, Gardner, Klecko, Roach and Alexander. Outsourcing for LB help would also be welcome; the list of available bodies were previously posted from a Mike Reiss blog entry (Junior Seau can apparently be scratched from that list).

That's my $.02; now on to Reche Caldwell and the WR thead...
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The sooner BB realizes this basic fact, the sooner the ILB situation can be fixed....
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