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Old 08-04-2006, 08:19 PM   #41
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Won't mean a thing in November or December if they've lost the division
in the early part of the season. PATs need to be very good right away
this year ..... if lowely Jets and Bills can split with us then it is possible
Miami could take two ... and all this could be set up in first five weeks of
the season. If it happened that way PATs could lose the Division and maybe
not even make the playoffs. Being good early this year is necessary. IMO
This keeps getting funnier!

First Jackson missing practice time means his chemistry and development take a hit.

Then, at the "critical" date of August 4, him missing practice means the entire offense will suffer.

Now, the Pats are going to be lucky to stay ahead of the Bills and Jets in the division early on because their #4 WR missed a week of early training camp practice.

Please, I want to know what's next. 0-16 season if Jackson drops a ball in practice Monday?
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Old 08-04-2006, 08:42 PM   #42
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This keeps getting funnier!

First Jackson missing practice time means his chemistry and development take a hit.

Then, at the "critical" date of August 4, him missing practice means the entire offense will suffer.

Now, the Pats are going to be lucky to stay ahead of the Bills and Jets in the division early on because their #4 WR missed a week of early training camp practice.

Please, I want to know what's next. 0-16 season if Jackson drops a ball in practice Monday?
I think you are missing the point. The phrase "if he's not on the field in August...." I took to mean the majority of preseason. He didn't say if he comes back Monday all is lost. Also, it's Who's Hot right now. I don't think even the biggest homer in the world would say that if you did a list of who has been hot over the first week of training camp, that Jackson's name would be on it. Who knows? Maybe he comes back next week and starts setting the world on fire. I think missing any practice time for a young player is bad and if you disagree, go back to your soiurce because he has said it in virtually every press conference since training camp started. Belichick has said at least five times this week that when young players aren't on the field, they're not getting better. Go read the transcripts, it's all there from the source you trust.
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Old 08-04-2006, 08:46 PM   #43
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I think you are missing the point. The phrase "if he's not on the field in August...." I took to mean the majority of preseason. He didn't say if he comes back Monday all is lost. Also, it's Who's Hot right now. I don't think even the biggest homer in the world would say that if you did a list of who has been hot over the first week of training camp, that Jackson's name would be on it. Who knows? Maybe he comes back next week and starts setting the world on fire. I think missing any practice time for a young player is bad and if you disagree, go back to your soiurce because he has said it in virtually every press conference since training camp started. Belichick has said at least five times this week that when young players aren't on the field, they're not getting better. Go read the transcripts, it's all there from the source you trust.
You want quotes, you get quotes:

http://www.patriots.com/mediacenter/...=20303&pcid=85

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Q: How do you feel overall about the depth on the roster here right now?

BB: This is the first week of August. It's a competitive camp. I think it's a competitive camp

Q: Just looking at it on paper...

BB: What difference does it make? What is paper? You're going to put my paper out there against Buffalo's paper? It doesn't mean anything. Depth is what you have in October, November and December. That is what depth is. Depth in May, depth in July, what difference does it make? The guys we have, we're trying to get better. We have a lot of people we're trying to evaluate. We'll do what we can do to put the best team out there and pick the players that we think give us the best chance to win. That's all this process is a part of. I don't think depth in July means anything. I don't think depth in May means anything. Depth in November, December, that's when you either have it or don't have it.
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Old 08-04-2006, 08:47 PM   #44
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This is a quote from Patriots.com of Belichick talking about Maroney being there on the first day of practice. If you have a problem, take it up with him.

“It’s good to see him out there because everyday he practices, he has a chance to get better,” Belichick said. “It’s a process and that process takes time. It’s good to have him out there and have him working. The more time a young player is on the field early like this, the more things they can do for your football team down the line.”

Right from the horses mouth.
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Old 08-04-2006, 08:48 PM   #45
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That quote has nothing to do with Chad Jackson at all. It's talking about making a depth chart early in August. Terrible example.
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......

Then, at the "critical" date of August 4, .....
...... AUGUST 7TH

Now it will be August 7th before Jackson gets a chance
to practice with his teammates. Time is going fast.

Next week Bill and the team start preparing for the preseaon games.
Jackson on the fundmentals that the team got has to try and catch up
... the team won't wait for him.
Say no Deion and no Jackson. then what is your WR core?

Cadwell Brown and ........ that will real hard for most teams to handle.

With a defective passing game do you think teams might know how to exploit
that weakness and even play the run a little better. You think they might
be able to play closer to the line?

You think Jets and Bills are at least competent defensively to take advantage
of a weakness like that?

BTW, where did you buy your glasses? the rosey colored ones that is.

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BTW, where did you buy your glasses? the rosey colored ones that is.
Same store, 1 flight up, from where you bought your *****brown, triple-negative prescription ones.
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...... AUGUST 7TH

Now it will be August 7th before Jackson gets a chance
to practice with his teammates. Time is going fast.

Next week Bill and the team start preparing for the preseaon games.
Jackson on the fundmentals that the team got has to try and catch up
... the team won't wait for him.
Say no Deion and no Jackson. then what is your WR core?

Cadwell Brown and ........ that will real hard for most teams to handle.

With a defective passing game do you think teams might know how to exploit
that weakness and even play the run a little better. You think they might
be able to play closer to the line?

You think Jets and Bills are at least competent defensively to take advantage
of a weakness like that?

BTW, where did you buy your glasses? the rosey colored ones that is.
A defective passing game? What the hell are you basing that on? A week's worth of training camp reports? If my mind serves me right, Brady didn't look all that great during camp last year.

Brady could throw 18 INTs during camp and the preseason but his next wouldn't be until Week 12.

Practices are at half-speed, sometimes non-contact. Coaches are holding back. Players are holding back. There are scheduled days off. Winning a preseason game is the last thing on the team's mind.

In terms of how a team will perform in the upcoming season, you can't read into anything during the preseason.

You mean Branch, Caldwell, Brown, and Jackson, plus Graham and Watson, right?

Oh. I forgot. Branch or Graham aren't in camp yet. Jackson "isn't hot." My bad. I forgot that decided the fate of the team when it actually matters.

Do you think training camp practices have conditions even coming close to resembling a regular season game? It's almost like you believe the Pats are playing a full-speed game every day, and that Brady's play is even remotely affected by the OL playing in front of him. I'm sorry, but during camp, pass blocking is a complete non-factor. Everything is structured and planned. If the Pats want Brady to throw only to receivers running quick slants all day, that's all he'll do.
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Old 08-04-2006, 09:06 PM   #49
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That quote has nothing to do with Chad Jackson at all. It's talking about making a depth chart early in August. Terrible example.
That's beside the point:

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Secondly, missing less than a dozen early training camp practices doesn't mean it's going to affect a player in November or December.
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It's August 4th, for chrissakes. Not September 4th.
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Won't mean a thing in November or December if they've lost the division in the early part of the season.
Health = Depth.

Letting Jackson fully heal now (at the expense of a few practices) = less risk of re-injury = health = long-term depth (at the expense of short-term performance).
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We hitting the panic button a bit soon here?

Seymour has missed some practices too. And so has Brady. I guess we're doomed.

I'd love to have everyone healthy but injuries are a part of the game. Whether Jackson pulled a hammy or not has nothing to do with his talent level or his ability to produce. Now if he can't suit up at the start of the REAL season, then I'll start getting worried.
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