hallfamebrady

...was taking the Pats job while following in Parcells footsteps

http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06...s/source/3.htm

BB bailed Kraft out in a big way.

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JoeSixPat

The guy shouldn't believe his own BS and forget that his current success has a lot to do with his ability to attract talented high school football players to a program run by a laid back coach in a laid back region of a laid back state with tons of hot girls so football players can get....

well you get the point

College football is all about recruitment.

Profootball is about the Xs and Os and of real talent evaluation and real motivation of real men to run through walls for you.

Pete couldn't handle that, whether it was his age old comments that "if we only had another quarter, we could have won" or his inability to keep the respect of his players, most clearly demonstrated when Bledsoe and the rest of the team ignored his desparate "time out" call from the sidelines, calling their own play to win the game.

I think pretty much everyone recognizes Carroll for what he is - as a great college recruiter, good defensive coordinator, and awful NFL head coach.

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hallfamebrady

How much do you want to bet Pete is back off to the NFL if a team comes calling? If he means his words, he stays at USC for life because it is an easy challenge.

Also, BB is a great coach because he takes the challenging situation and thrives.

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JoeSixPat

He'll flirt with the NFL only as leverage to up his salary.

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hallfamebrady

The scary thing is that the series of articles was on GREAT LEADERS who have thrived as a result of making mistakes. Pete Carroll is not a great leader despite his success at USC

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RayClay

Don't know if Pete had the make up for an NFL coach.

I do know following Parcells wasn't his main problem. People hated the way Tuna left and would have given Poodle a chance.

He might have been in an untenable situation with Krafty and his puppy Bobby Grier.

He needed to come in and punch Grier in the mouth and tell Kraft he needed control.

After Parcells, maybe Kraft wasn't going to give control and didn't learn until he had the right situation?

Either way, with Grier's pitiful drafts and his meddling with player discipline, (if their was any), Petey was a Eunuch from the start and it was merely a matter of time.

Love him or hate him, Parcells knows a no win situation when he sees one and takes action one way or the other.

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MoLewisrocks

Something I'm sure you know little about NEM...EGO.

Oddly Kraft is on record saying Pete never had a fair shot here (probably because of the entitlement culture that re-emerged in the wake of Tuna's departure, and the incompetence in the FO that remained) and that is one of his regrets because he does think Pete could be a very successful HC. Probably wouldn't play well here, but as a replacement for a guy like Vermeil or Shottenheimer or compared to some of the stiffs who have managed to hang around or recycle their way to lengthy NFL HC careers, I don't doubt Pete will return to the NFL one day soon. Only he'll pick a better situation with a fanbase less intense and a lower level of expectation. I have a feeling Charlie is smarter and has his priotities in better order and will not return to the NFL meatgrinder.

flutie2phelan

I missed Pete saying that.
But it reminds me that it was said of ... though he didn't say it himself ...
the legendary Bobby Layne that
he never lost a game ... but sometimes the clock ran out on him.

But Carroll's mistake certainly wasn't COMING HERE.
It was how he ran his team ... once he got here.

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Mike the Brit

Isn't this amazing?

We all know what Pete Carroll's mistake was: he lost control of the team. The character flaw corresponding to that: weakness and indecisiveness.

So how does Pete present himself for the benefit of a load of businessmen killing time on their flights? As someone who can't back out of an impossible challenge. Character flaw: overambition.

Yeah, right ...

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Patjew

I remember watching it happen, but not the specific details. What game was that?

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