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WOAH. How the heck did we end up at #11 in the Pass Catchers dept ? Someone just gave us a LOT of credit. I think we're about right at the QB & RBs #s though.
Pass Catchers Puzzlers :
Steelers at #11 : Just as overrated as we are.
Texans at #16 : Moulds & Andre Johnson are considered midde of the pack for #1 & #2 WRs ? Really ?
Seahawks at #14 : I'd take D-Jax, Engram & Burleson over a lot of 3 WR sets in the NFL.
Raiders at #14 : Moss & Porter can make even Kerry Collins look reasonable. They deserve better.
Redskins at #3 : Just because they might be #3 in team spending on WRs, doesn't mean that they have that much talent. They're still in the top 10 or 15 though.
Giants at #6 : I guess Shockey is the only reason for this, because Toomer is over the hill and Plax just catches jump balls.
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I expected them to rank the Pats recieving A LOT lower, but the reason they ranked the Pats so high at #11 was because of Branch and the tight ends. Ofcourse everyone is pulling for Watson to have a great year after last season where he showed some signs of a pro bowl caliber player in the future. Graham is a great blocking tight end but he can make some good catches. He did use to struggle with his hands but he has made some pretty big catches for us. And adding Mills and Thomas certainly makes up for losing Fauria.
Quarterback I was really suprised but pleased. I would never have thought they'd put the Pats at #1 with Peyton Manning out there. They would usually put Peyton at #1 automatically regardless that Jim Sorgi is his back up. But they were right, Brady is AWESOME. And Cassel looked pretty good for a rookie, ripping up to Dolphins defensive starters.
Runningbacks....I would think it should be slightly higher. I mean this is the Ultimate DEPTH CHART. Doesnt necesarily mean starter. We have Dillon and I think he rocks, and a great great running back, but I have to face it, no one is going to believe in Dillon, and are ready to believe hes washed up. No he isnt, but people will throw aside injuries to himself, offensive line, etc. Kevin Faulk has proved to be a valuable backup, unless injured. 04 he was a good runner when Dillon needed some rest on the sidelines. Good player. But now we dont have Cedric Cobbs at #3, we have Maroney which is a lot lot better. When I say #3, he still might get as many carries as Faulk to give Dillon rest, in that case it is excellent to have him until hes ready to take the starting role whenever Dillon leaves.
Now next we have Pass Defense...
I expect the Pats to be ranked very very low. They dont deserve it I dont think. They looked solid at the end of last year. Hobbs looked excellent for a starting rookie. And ofcourse having Harrison back is HUGE. Gay back will be good. Then we would have four possible starting cornerbacks in the Depth at CB. I wouldnt rank us that high but not that low.
Run defense should be #1. At least top five. Seymour, Warren, Wilfork, Green, the fat bust who needs to get a good diet, on the D-Line. Bruschi on the inside...we have Beisel who is a very possible starter inside. Then we have Colvin and Vrabel on the outside. Looks good to me.
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Cassel had NOTHING to do with the QB grade of #1. On the show, they said they threw out the backups for Brady and P. Manning since they are so far ahead of the rest of the QB pack. With that in mind, they just put Brady and Manning on the table and Brady won from the panel - no arguements.
Again, the ranking had NOTHING to do with Cassel's ONE game against a Miami team that had NOTHING to play for at the end of the season. PLEASE!
14 for RB seems pretty reasonable to me. Dillon was top 5 in 2004 and bottom 5 in 2005. Clearly if he was healthy he would have at least been middle of the pack. I think you can make 3 assumptions to back that ranking up. 1) If dillon is healthy he is easily top 15 RBs in the NFL 2) If he's not, Maroney is surely better than half the starting RBs out there (go through the list, there are a lot of teams with questoinable RBs that a #1 pick would probalby be an upgrade to. 3) If both play, that is fantastic depth.
Also having Faulk as 3rd down back and reserve would raise the rating, I cant think of many teams whose #3 at RB is better than Kevin Faulk.
Again, the ranking had NOTHING to do with Cassel's ONE game against a Miami team that had NOTHING to play for at the end of the season. PLEASE!
Agree. The only reason that Miami left all their starters in the entire game against our third stringers was because ... umm because ... because ... well, just because.
NO surprises here just a good article on our two top TE's
In recent years, the New England Patriots have become famous for having a host of tight ends on their roster capable of making big catches at crucial times. This offseason, the Patriots' stable of tight ends took a hit when they lost 11-year veteran Christian Fauria to free agency. However, they still have plenty of potential at the position, with Daniel Graham and Ben Watson.
The current No. 1 on the New England Patriots ' depth chart is Graham, a former first-round pick in 2002. Quietly, the 27-year-old has emerged as one of the league's foremost blockers at his position. During his four-year tenure with the Patriots, the 6-3, 257-pounder has been at the receiving end of 99 passes, 15 of which have been touchdowns.
Unfortunately for Graham, he's never been lucky enough to stay injury-free for a full season, as he's missed at least two games in every season, including five last year. Graham is clearly the Patriots' best blocking tight end, and he makes the catch when the ball is thrown his way, which has made him a favorite of quarterback Tom Brady.
Meanwhile, Benjamin Watson holds down the No. 2 spot on the depth chart. He's not the adept blocker Graham is, but he makes up for it with his ability to be a solid receiver. Much like Graham, he too was a first-round pick, chosen in 2004.
Because of injuries, Watson only appeared in one game as a rookie; however, he showed plenty of promise last season, catching 29 passes for a jaw-dropping 15.2-yard average. The highlight to Watson's 2005 came in the AFC Wild Card round, when he took a Tom Brady pass 63 yards for a touchdown in a 28-3 win over the Jacksonville Jaguars .
The 6-3, 253-pounder has enough potential to become one of the NFL's best receivers at his position. Names like Antonio Gates, Jeremy Shockey, Tony Gonzalez and Randy McMichael are the attention-getters now, but Watson could join that list in the near future, especially with Brady, the game's top QB, throwing passes his way.
The Patriots, of course, lost one of their best receivers, David Givens, during the free agency period. If Watson can help fill Givens' void in the catch department and Graham continues his promising pace as a blocker/dependable receiver, there's no reason why New England's offense won't continue humming along in 2006.
Wow, they must be giving Marroney some serious credit to get us up to 14. Given what happened last year, I think we need to prove we have a running game this year.
I can go along with Pass Catchers if we toss in the TE and Faulk. Since Tom runs the screen as well as anyone. I can think of a lot of teams with better pure WR but we have very good TE and good third down pass catching running back.
We were number 10 for pass defense, and the way they described it, I thought they'd have us even higher. They mentioned how some of the guys who were starting in our secondary at the end of last season will now be backups and how much depth we have, and how our pass rush was really really good. They said with Rodney back and a healthy Bruschi, that by the end of the season we should definitely be better than #10.
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