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Old 05-15-2006, 09:34 AM   #11
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Wow. That's not even close to accurate. I'd put him behind Barrett AND the two safeties.

In fact, he's no longer with the Jets partly because they have two kids in Strait and Miller who they feel can improve on Law's performance.
10 turnovers is still 10 turnovers. And don't you think we could've used some more TOs on defense...? I'd take him back in a heartbeat if BB thinks he makes our defense better.
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Old 05-15-2006, 09:39 AM   #12
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10 turnovers is still 10 turnovers. And don't you think we could've used some more TOs on defense...? I'd take him back in a heartbeat if BB thinks he makes our defense better.
I'm with you. We got killed by a lack of turnovers last year and I do think that Law's coverage would be helped by our good front seven.
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Frankly, if the goal is to improve the talent level on the team, I'm perplexed why anyone wouldn't want to see Law back playing for the Pats

No one can sit here and tell me that adding Law wouldn't improve the talent level on this Patriot team. An argument could be entered that Law isn't worth X amount of $ but, as of right now, we have no idea how much money Law will command. And truthfully, with the cap shape that this team is in right now they can afford to pay Law some serious coin if that's what it takes and they feel he is worth it.

Now while Law isn't the CB he was in years past he's still very good. Especially if he's playing in a system, like the Pats', that hides his weaknesses. What's more, his ability to create turnovers alone is worth the price of admission. Recall that Law's 10 INT's last year were the same as the Pats entire team, and 7 more than what our leaders (Samuel and Hobbs) got. Our secondary is woefully inept at picking off opposing QB's (tied for 4th worst in the NFL last season). Addng Law would quickly rectify this huge problem.
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Ty Law is all about money. I can't see Patriots fans embracing him like before. Last season he looked fat and very slow. No way I can see him covering a Marvin Harrison or Chad Johnson. Yes I know the Patriots are mostly a COVER 2 ZONE defense but THERE WILL BE times when he will have to actually run stride for stride against a premier WR.

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I understand why people have some animosity towards Ty because of his insistence on being overpaid and some of the stupid things he has said in the past. But let's not kid ourselves, he would help the defense tremendously, and anyone who says otherwise is full of it.

Sure, we survived without him in '04, but look back to '03, and he was the MVP of that defense all season long, through the playoffs. Take how dominating our D was getting the last few weeks of last season, add in a healthy Rodney, and add in Ty Law, and we will likely have one of the best D's in the league, combined with what should be one of the best offenses in the league.

Of course, we have to get Ty at a reasonable price.

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HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA....you'll see.
Are you sure about that Garby? Do you really want an overpaid, over the hill, trash talkin and locker room distraction back on the Pats? Didn't Bellicheck get rid of him for those very reasons last year?

I'm sure he & Bill are good friends, heck I'll bet Ty will even be an usher at Bellicheck's all expense paid by ESPN wedding to Bonnie Bernstein, but $10 million just to rack up penalties while trying to up his worth for the next sucker interested in hiring him?

I don't think so, but good luck with that line of thinking.
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Old 05-15-2006, 10:07 AM   #17
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Ty Law belongs in a Patriot uniform. To my mind, with the possible exception of Mike Haynes, Ty is the best cornerback in Pats history - hands down. He deserves to retire as a Patriot and he will always have my respect. My favorite Law memory is the iconic image of him limping 70 yards to the house in the pivotal game against the Titans. Ty is the man!! Anyone who says otherwise is a damn fool.

And yes, I mean You!!

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I would love to see ty back for the simple fact that he makes the rest of our corners by putting them in their place. asante at #2 is a better fit IMO. hobbs would make an excellent nickle cb.
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I understand why people have some animosity towards Ty because of his insistence on being overpaid and some of the stupid things he has said in the past. But let's not kid ourselves, he would help the defense tremendously, and anyone who says otherwise is full of it.

Sure, we survived without him in '04, but look back to '03, and he was the MVP of that defense all season long, through the playoffs. Take how dominating our D was getting the last few weeks of last season, add in a healthy Rodney, and add in Ty Law, and we will likely have one of the best D's in the league, combined with what should be one of the best offenses in the league.

Of course, we have to get Ty at a reasonable price.
Put aside the price issue, because we all know he's not getting the guaranteed 14-16 mil. he's reportedly asking for.

Do you really want to judge Ty's likely performance in 2006 by what he did three seasons and a major injury ago?

This is a classic example of getting rid of a guy one year to early instead of one year too late. I'm not sold on Ellis Hobbs, but I'd like for him to get the chance. Have you ever been on an escalator going in one direction, and pass the people going the other way? That's Law going in one direction, and Samuel, Hobbs, and Gay going in the other. We have veteran insurance in Warfield that cost us a lot less than Law. I don't know why so many people here think that signing a guy with obviously declining skills is a great move for the franchise.

Does anybody agree with me? That even if his financial demands come down to a reasonable level, that a 33 year old Ty Law probably doesn't help this team?
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Ty Law belongs in a Patriot uniform. To my mind, with the possible exception of Mike Haynes, Ty is the best cornerback in Pats history - hands down. He deserves to retire as a Patriot and he will always have my respect. My favorite Law memory is the iconic image of him limping 70 yards to the house in the pivotal game against the Titans. Ty is the man!! Anyone who says otherwise is a damn fool.

And yes, I mean You!!
Ray Clayborn would be #3 on that list. Would you like to sign him?

At some point, we have to say goodbye to the all-time greats in order to move forward.
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