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If you go by the Pick Value Chart, we also "over-paid" for Eugene Wilson in the 2003 draft. We traded a 2nd and 3rd for a Gino and a 4th.
You can look at it from a pick perspective, IE 380pts (52) and 215pts (75) was too much for pick 36, 540pts.
Or you can look at it from a player perspective. The two picks we traded were 595 pts, right between the values of pick 31 and 32. Was Chad Jackson still a value pick at 31 or 32? I would say yes. And at 36 we get to pay him less money. :-)
So we may have over-paid for the Pick, we did'nt overplay for the player. I would make the same case for Wilson when we traded up to get him in the 2nd round. That was pick 36 (540) and 117 (60), for 41 (490) and 75 (215). We gave up 705 for 600. We gave up an extra 105 points for Wilson. Add 105 points to pick 36, and you get 645, which would be pick #29 overall. So you have to assume the Patriots had a first round grade on Wilson, which is why they were willing to give up so much Pick Value to get him.
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Was listening to NFL Sirius Radio yesterday. When talking about the Patriots trading up to get Chad Jackson, Wilcox said the Patriots got the worse of the trade. He said WR Greg Jennings and ILB Hodge were taken with those two picks.
He said Chad Jackson didn't shoot up the draft chart because of any body of work. He shot up because of his combine workouts. He said if you watch film of Jackson, he puts way to "many balls on the ground".
Then he said, Jennings is a better football player than Jackson.
Every bit I've ever seen of Jackson, he's had glue for hands. Can any Florida Gator reader comment please? Or, anybody else for that matter.
Can't argue with this. Obviously Sal Wilcox knows the Patriots needs and NFL talent more than Belichick and Pioli.
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When I used to watch Wolcots on NFL Gameday, he made my ears hurt with some of his stupid comments. He's no better than Michael Irvin, who said after the Maroney pick "this is exactly what the Patriots need down there in Foxborough. A big back who's going to pound the ball, grind out the clock, and move the chains." Somtimes I wonder whether these so-called "experts" even bother to familiarize themselves with the players.
The idea that the value chart exists as anything more than a guideline is absurd. Ditto for the idea that subjective value evaluations should take a back seat to "The Chart."
I wish this chart had never been made public. It is interesting before the draft to give an idea but we didn't trade for the value of the 36th pick, we traded for the value of Chad Jackson. What if he were our 15th ranked player in the draft ?
When I used to watch Wolcots on NFL Gameday, he made my ears hurt with some of his stupid comments. He's no better than Michael Irvin, who said after the Maroney pick "this is exactly what the Patriots need down there in Foxborough. A big back who's going to pound the ball, grind out the clock, and move the chains." Somtimes I wonder whether these so-called "experts" even bother to familiarize themselves with the players.
but since he didn't even get his facts right, I have to throw him in with Irvin and also Cris Carter, who I can't stand. Carter has said so many stupid things I can't even begin to list 'em.. actually the one that really set me off was when prior to last season he picked his "4 elite teams" in the nfl Colts, Jets, Eagles, Vikings... Pats weren't on the list... okay fine, you don't like the Pats.. but the FREAKING JEST's were!??!? MORON! It's the only time I ever felt compelled to email a media person... I actually pointed out to him that the Jets were one good hit on Pennington away from being awful.. It is the most accurate (okay, Lucky) prediction I have ever made. How he has a job is beyond me...?!? The JET's i'm telling you... with a noodle arm qb, crappy OL, crappy FO, and no depth were gonna be ELITE!
I don't know how half these media bozo's have jobs.... I don't claim to know all that much, but for cryin' out loud... there's at least 20 guys on this board that no more than most of these idiots... you know who you are, but don't let your heads swell!
Wow, the guy hasn't played one down in the NFL yet, and already we got screwed. Gee, I wonder if this guy wants to tell me what lottery numbers to pick or who's gonna win the Kentucky Derby, Preakness and Belmont this year?
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Regarding Jennings vs. Jackson, I really liked Jennings for our #3 and I'd even talked myself into our #2. But there's no comparison with Jackson who is bigger, faster, played against tougher competition and whose coach Belichick trusts. We would have been fine, I think, taking Jackson at #21 - I can't imagine the reaction if we'd taken Jennings #1.
Was listening to NFL Sirius Radio yesterday. When talking about the Patriots trading up to get Chad Jackson, Wilcox said the Patriots got the worse of the trade. He said WR Greg Jennings and ILB Hodge were taken with those two picks.
He said Chad Jackson didn't shoot up the draft chart because of any body of work. He shot up because of his combine workouts. He said if you watch film of Jackson, he puts way to "many balls on the ground".
Then he said, Jennings is a better football player than Jackson.
Every bit I've ever seen of Jackson, he's had glue for hands. Can any Florida Gator reader comment please? Or, anybody else for that matter.
I'm a Nole, but Chad was the man. He crushed us last year and had over 90 catches. He's usually a big play guy but completely changed his game and became a first down possesion guy, going over the middle. He's a steal where we got him.
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