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Old 05-04-2006, 11:42 PM   #11
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yeah, but most of us can do a little better than a 10 second soundbyte on the Pats, ala McShay/Kiper et al.

"weak secondary, thin at LB, etc. etc. etc."

try stacked secondary and arguably the finest LB core in the league.
Just curious, what players are making up your secondary and LB in Week One? Does your assessment take depth into account at the positions?
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Old 05-05-2006, 01:43 AM   #12
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this again? Well I guess if these guys had any real clue they'd be employed by an NFL team...
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Old 05-05-2006, 01:47 AM   #13
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This whole linebacker thing kills me. Most NFL coaches would kill to have a starting threesome of Rosey Colvin, Tedy Brushci, and Mike Vrable. Yet, somehow "linebacker" is the Pats biggest need? Go figure.

I know, why don't we get an undersized college safety and convert him to LB like the Colts to fill our "need"?
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Old 05-05-2006, 04:38 AM   #14
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Looks like all these pundits will do anything to continue the season for the bottom line, they continue their pay for view sites in hopes that we will all continue to view them and keep this crap going on...remember when the Draft was a Wed AM side panel, it has grown leaps and bounds since then, there is an attempt to continue the NFL interest 12 months per year...which suits us, but everyone wants to make a buck off of it. Who cares what they say, we will see what everything looks like in September and in late January...
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Old 05-05-2006, 02:46 PM   #15
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The LB position is the most difficult position to learn in the patriots system, the patriots are not going to draft anyone who will make an impact in their first year at LB. There is a huge learning curve and experience factor to play LB in our system. Also we aren't goin to draft college LB's who are great in college but undersized for the patriots. The media just wants to see a big name college LB drafted by the pats because now that Willie is gone we are "paper thin" at LB.

Forget the fact that it takes at the bare minimum an entire year to learn to play LB in the system to be at least sufficient enough to not cause problems (i.e. Beisel and Brown early last year).

Beisel has been here for a year now, he will be MUCH MUCH better next year. With Vrabel's versatility it makes things easier. TBC should have a bigger impact next year and there is going to be decent competition in camp.

Most likely we will have situational LB's subbing in and out all year and with a solid core of Colvin, Bruschi and Vrabel, I am 100% confident that Belichick and co. know what they are doing and LB will not be a problem this season.



I also don't understand many people's desperate calls for DB help. We have only had problems in the secondary because of an insane amount of injuries the last couple of years. Maybe that will continue, but most likely not. Eugene is going to have a MONSTER year, he's going to be all over the place this year along with Rodney . Samuel and Hobbs starting... WOW I cannot wait for this season, if we do not get killed by the injury bug this year our defense is going to be absolutely dominant. Along with a high powered offense, with big play potential and clock control ability. OH man, I just can't wait this long for the season to start!
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Just curious, what players are making up your secondary and LB in Week One? Does your assessment take depth into account at the positions?
I would see Samuel and Hobbs as the starters, RGay will be the nickel back, Warfield & C Scott are competing for the #4 CB spot, Poteat who has done OK in late seasons stints is hopeing to make the roster depending on the # of CB's we keep.

At Saftey, A Hawkins & E Wilson will start (IMO Rodney will be out till week 6), Sanders & G Scott will be the back ups, with T Jones & Mel Mitchell used mostly as a gunners on ST's.

I am very comfortable with our starters & depth in the secondary. IF we have 7 injuries like last year, there will be issues. OTOH I don't know of ANY NFL team which could sustain those kind of injuries and have a good secondary. Last year inspite of the injuries the secondary was solid in Dec & Jan.
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The bullcrap with the secondary need is annoying. If some analysts actually knew the entire Pats secondary, we have Samuel as the #1 cornerback, he improved towards the end of the season greatly. I hope he continues that from week 1 next season. Hobbs played excellent for a rookie. Poole's injured, Starks gets the starter role and stinks up the house and finally we move onto Hobbs who played solid and showed great potential for his future, hopefully with the Pats. Veteran back ups Chad Scott, Eric Warfield, and Artrell Hawkins, then there is Randall Gay who isnt too shabby. So thats six cornerbacks, and I expect another to be added. At the safety spot, Wilson and Harrison, thats set in stone, they will problably both start, and we've got Tebucky Jones to play special teams and safety if the need comes. Sanders, Scott and that guy from the Saints. Whats that? 12 defensive backs, I dont expect Chad Scott, Randall Gay and Rodney Harrison to be knocked out again with a season ending injury. I will just hope Samuel and Hobbs stay healthy and I'm loving it.
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Mills seems more like a WR than a FB. When you achieve over 1200 yards in receptions last season, averaging more than 10 yards per reception most games, that's hardly a FB. Also Mills didn't rush at all in college. I was trying to find some speed stats for him.
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Mills=Larry Centers????
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