PatsFanInVa

Yeah, kind of. I still think it is just as likely some species of coach to coach mind games. Whenever Shanahan starts talking I automatically assume it's a misdirection of some kind - sort of like Belichick.

I mean, I don't know what he could possibly accomplish with it in this context. I just don't put any stock in the commentary on the Pats' draft from the redoubtable Mr. Shanahan.

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spacecrime

Change shanny to belly and "since Elway" to "without Brady", and you sound like a Colts fan. Remember he was coach of the year a few years ago, and that is voted on by other NFL head coaches.

Mike the Brit

Ditto to that. I dislike Shanahan and wouldn't take anything he says at face value (unlike Belichick: trouble with BB is he says almost nothing! You can't imagine him commenting on another team's draft pick in a million years, can you?) but he is a good coach, no question.

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Mike, when I made that "every statement is a tactic" comparison, on the BB side I was thinking more of the injury report, really. But BB's actions speak for him. You really think he wanted Javon? You really think he was courting every player he had down for workouts? Half the moves, half the statements to the press, were smoke screens. I'm pretty sure he mentioned linebacker a time or two in print in the last month or so. Any mention of running backs?

But that's all speculation and addressing his press talk by vague memory... It really was the running fiction of the Pats' injury report that put him in the incorrigible press manipulator category for me. And know what? He's got three rings that make that okay. (I don't count anything he won with anybody else)

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the taildragger

BBYO wakes me up too. doubt he needs much encouragement though. he gets more creative with each post.

Whenever Shanny says anything in public I take it with a grain of salt, but that's definitely a heck of a statement on LoMo.

dryheat44

Just a word of caution, Shanahan also loudly proclaimed that Kevan Barlow was the best running back in the draft that year, which included LaDanian and Lamont, among others.

I'm not sure he can evaluate RBs without projecting them into his offense. Maroney fits great into Denver's offense. I think he'll fit here too.

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Jacky Roberts

The Son of Mr. Shanahan's name should not be used in such a way. Its very offensive.

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Mike the Brit

Mmm, thought-provoking.

There's a very old Jewish joke about two businessmen who used to meet on the station platform in Warsaw. One asks the other where he's going. The second businessman says he's going to Lodz to buy coal.

The first one says "Every time you tell me you're going to Lodz to buy coal you go to Poznan to buy wood, and every time you tell me you're going to Poznan to buy wood you go to Lodz to buy coal. But today I know you're going to Lodz to buy coal. So why are you lying to me?"

I don't think that BB is like that (that's more Parcells, Al Davis, Shanahan). His policy is not, by and large, active deception but minimum informativeness. I think that they really wanted a look at Walker. How interested were they in him really? I have no idea whatsoever -- and that's the point. The minimum information policy on the injury list seems to be: put everyone down as questionable.

My two cents (pence).

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State

In the playoffs, I was absolutely sick of seeing teams abandon any pretense of defending us against the run. Denver blitzed continually. OL had trouble picking them up in the first half, esp. the wrestler LG, Stephen Neal.

Brady's great, but no one can do it all continually.

Now they may have to be more cautious. Can you imagine a blitz, and we counter with a draw with Maroney zooming up the field with excellent speed for a long-gainer? F'ing sweet.

I'M SO SICK OF THE PATRIOTS NOT BEING ABLE TO RUN THE BALL DOWN THE OPPONENTS' THROAT! What is this, blitzing 43-year-old men (John Lynch) at us, and we can't even burn them?

That's where Laurence Maroney and Chad Jackson provide problems for the defense. Speed kills.

Fanfrom1960

Maybe he thinks Maroney is so good he could run for closer to 2000 yards, like Terrell Davis. Would be nice.

For people who don't like Shanahan, imagine Bill Belichick coaching the Broncos or another AFC top team and beating your team most every year. Would you like him?