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FredFromDartmouth · 07-23-2010, 07:18 PM

The big galoots on NFL channel were picking the top players in the league and of the brutes pick Revis. Then he flashed a graphic of how the top receivers had done against Revis and Moss looked lot better than most; something like 5 receptions and 1 TD (but still not great). Chad Ochocinco had 0 catches against Revis. Sure Moss plays against Revis more than most guys but he did better than almost all other receivers last year.

Gunnails · 07-23-2010, 07:40 PM

Moss was pretty banged up the last half of the season, which I believe helps explain why Revis says that Moss was a slouch.

I have much admiration for Moss, no WR has ever impressed me more, not even Rice.

FWIW I think Moss has about reached the end, I think he has lost the fire.
JMHO.

This will be Randy's last good year.

I heard that Welker was cleared to play and would not start on the PUP, congrats to him. Best slot receiver in the NFL, I hope he is back to form rite off the bat.

FredFromDartmouth · 07-23-2010, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunnails

Moss was pretty banged up the last half of the season, which I believe helps explain why Revis says that Moss was a slouch.

I have much admiration for Moss, no WR has ever impressed me more, not even Rice.

FWIW I think Moss has about reached the end, I think he has lost the fire.
JMHO.

This will be Randy's last good year.

I don't think that Moss has lost the fire; not at all. This mantra has been repeated so much in the press that people are starting to believe it. Reminds me of when the Red Sox acquired Mike Lowell and someone said that he had a slow bat speed and then every other guy in the media was repeating this silly theory. Of course Lowell went on to hit a ton of doubles (close to breaking some record I think) and the press quietly dropped the slow-bat-speed nonsense (with no apologies).

Randy looked really really fired up during the Colts game last year. Still plenty of heat. But when you have two gimpy knees and you played on the frozen green asphalt at Gillette ...well you lose a lot of zip.

[Just found this interesting discussion of the slow-bat-speed rubbish about Mike Lowell: http://www.baseball-fever.com/showth...eed&p=1753626]

***KontradictioN*** · 07-23-2010, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunnails

Moss was pretty banged up the last half of the season, which I believe helps explain why Revis says that Moss was a slouch.

I have much admiration for Moss, no WR has ever impressed me more, not even Rice.

FWIW I think Moss has about reached the end, I think he has lost the fire.
JMHO.

This will be Randy's last good year.

I heard that Welker was cleared to play and would not start on the PUP, congrats to him. Best slot receiver in the NFL, I hope he is back to form rite off the bat.

I don't think Moss has lost the fire at all. He doesn't have the lightning speed that he once had, but he's still one of the better receivers in the NFL when healthy.

***jmt57*** · 07-23-2010, 09:45 PM

I think the Revis - Moss talk will reach the equivalent of fingers on a chalkboard which is so large that it takes seven days to go from one end to the other, at 120 decibels for the entire time you have to watch and listen prior to the kickoff of Game 2.

FredFromDartmouth · 07-23-2010, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jmt57

I think the Revis - Moss talk will reach the equivalent of fingers on a chalkboard which is so large that it takes seven days to go from one end to the other, at 120 decibels for the entire time you have to watch and listen prior to the kickoff of Game 2.

Don't worry. As soon as camp starts there will be something real to talk about.

Contract talk is the worst of the worst and the worst kind of contract talk is stupid speculation that Brady will not report to camp. The Sports Hub spent most of the day today with this blather...PLLLLLLLEASE.

eom · 07-24-2010, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by FredFromDartmouth

The big galoots on NFL channel were picking the top players in the league and of the brutes pick Revis. Then he flashed a graphic of how the top receivers had done against Revis and Moss looked lot better than most; something like 5 receptions and 1 TD (but still not great). Chad Ochocinco had 0 catches against Revis. Sure Moss plays against Revis more than most guys but he did better than almost all other receivers last year.

he's better than almost all other receivers.

AzPatsFan · 07-24-2010, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by FredFromDartmouth

The big galoots on NFL channel were picking the top players in the league and of the brutes pick Revis. Then he flashed a graphic of how the top receivers had done against Revis and Moss looked lot better than most; something like 5 receptions and 1 TD (but still not great). Chad Ochocinco had 0 catches against Revis. Sure Moss plays against Revis more than most guys but he did better than almost all other receivers last year.

Not bad for a guy with a separated shoulder and bad ribs.

AzPatsFan · 07-24-2010, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunnails

Moss was pretty banged up the last half of the season, which I believe helps explain why Revis says that Moss was a slouch.

I have much admiration for Moss, no WR has ever impressed me more, not even Rice.

FWIW I think Moss has about reached the end, I think he has lost the fire.
JMHO.

This will be Randy's last good year.

I heard that Welker was cleared to play and would not start on the PUP, congrats to him. Best slot receiver in the NFL, I hope he is back to form rite off the bat.

Randy Moss gets dinged by critics because he is so outstanding that he makes it all look so absolutely effortless. That is sometimes interpreted as laziness and being uninvolved.

Randy wants all the HOF records, and will play to get as many as he can take from Rice.

***DarrylS*** · 07-24-2010, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by AzPatsFan

Randy Moss get dinged because he is so outstanding that he makes it all look so absolutely effortless. That is sometimes interpreted as laziness and being uninvolved.

Randy wants all the HOF records, and will play to get as many as he can take from Rice.

It also provides a scapegoat for ESPN and the local sports talk shows...