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Old 07-21-2010, 11:19 AM   #31
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Just saw the interview segment. As if I didn't need any further proof, Jamie Dukes just further proved his stupidity by claiming that Jenkins was not only better than Wilfork, but was possibly the best NT in the league.
Short memory? I'd rather have Jenkins at his peak than Wilfork at his. And it's not even close. At present time, unless Jenkins can prove he can stay healthy, I'd take Wilfork. But only because of health--not ability or talent.
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Old 07-21-2010, 11:22 AM   #32
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Lets not allow our homerism to detract from the truth. Chris Jenkins is a really effing good NT. Is Wilfork better? Maybe. Will Jenkins' recent injury derail his career? Maybe. But the guy is a beast and is one of the few superstars at the position. Up until his injury last year, he was the primary player on the Jets defense that offenses had to game plan around.
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What's so great about that? An impressive show of strength, no doubt. But he was going up against a single blocker. Wilfork ALWAYS commands two blockers at the LOS.

Isn't the helmet slap illegal?
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Short memory? I'd rather have Jenkins at his peak than Wilfork at his. And it's not even close. At present time, unless Jenkins can prove he can stay healthy, I'd take Wilfork. But only because of health--not ability or talent.
I don't know if it isn't close, but I may agree with you. I thought Jenkins should have been a contender for MVP in 2008 until lack of conditioning made him wear out down the stretch. Jenkins spent most of his career as a 4-3 DT which means comparing the two is difficult. Even under Mangini in the 3-4, they allowed him to rush the passer far more than Wilfork is allowed to.
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Short memory? I'd rather have Jenkins at his peak than Wilfork at his. And it's not even close. At present time, unless Jenkins can prove he can stay healthy, I'd take Wilfork. But only because of health--not ability or talent.
When exactly was his prime, 2003? He was considering retirement this season and had to be talked out of leaving. Kontra's mocking was directed to Jenkins in his present state, not some earlier time.

And as the Panthers really never used him as a nose tackle, in his prime he was a 4-3 defensive tackle, I am not sure to what version of Jenkins you would be referring in comparing him to Wilfork as a NT. The only basis for comparison would be his first year with the Jets in 2008, at which point you may recall the Pats simply running around Jenkins to wear him down in pursuit given his weight. Wilfork was better that year, despite a decent start by Jenkins, and was clearly better in subsequent years.

And as most of the Jenkins dissing I expect is Pats fans having fun with the resident Jets fans, I expect most would agree Jenkins is still a decent NT when healthy and was a great defensive lineman with the Panthers before he bulked up and lost some of his mobility.
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Isn't the helmet slap illegal?
I wondered that aswell!

Wiki says it was outlawed in 1977!
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Call me when Wilfat can do this.

He can already do that. Any NT in the league can do that, but it's generally bad idea since that's illegal and he was lucky not to get whistled for it. OTOH, call me when Jenkins can make it past week 7.
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Short memory? I'd rather have Jenkins at his peak than Wilfork at his. And it's not even close. At present time, unless Jenkins can prove he can stay healthy, I'd take Wilfork. But only because of health--not ability or talent.
I wasn't comparing the players at their peaks and neither was Dukes. He was saying that Jenkins is a better NT RIGHT NOW than Wilfork and was also saying that Jenkins is the best NT in the league RIGHT NOW. I simply can't agree with that and, apparently, neither can the biggest Jets homer on this forum.
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He can already do that. Any NT in the league can do that, but it's generally bad idea since that's illegal and he was lucky not to get whistled for it. OTOH, call me when Jenkins can make it past week 7.
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