Originally Posted by Holy Diver

Does anyone REALLY think Tom Brady give two poops about his salary?


This page should settle that debate: Gisele Bundchen's salary: USD 28,000,000 per year - Salary Income Money


while I typed this, she made about $500.00

Originally Posted by PatsFanSince74

Why shouldn't he, too, be paid what he is worth? Is the logic that because one person in a couple earns what the market says they deserve that the other shouldn't? I just don't understand that.

They are both entertainers in businesses where their values depreciate significantly with every passing year. Individually, they have extraordinary talents that, together, give them a chance to build generational wealth, creating legacies that will last for decades and enable them to dedicate significant resources to issues and causes that are meaningful to them. Why shouldn't they both get every Dollar or Real that they are worth?

I just don't buy the sentimentality that says that Tom Brady should "take one for the team," beyond a modest (say, five percent) reduction to save cap room, for whatever reason, let alone that his spouse makes a boatload of money.

Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks

Breer is being deliberately obtuse in ignoring Brady's roster bonus as well as failing to dig deeper for the reasons it's so difficult to do an extention under an expiring CBA. Or even acknowledge when he's been corrected for misrepresenting the entire situation as a result.

A long term Brady or Manning extension can't be reasonably constructed because neither had fully guaranteed salaries in 2009 and neither team had sufficient cap space at the close of the 2009 season to accommodate future "fully" guaranteed salaries (another of the pesky rule details in an expiring CBA). Ergo the only way to get extensions done in the present circumstance is to pay them in excess of $40M in signing bonus. Given most teams don't clear that in net profit (operating income) in a given season (Irsay had to sell his personal memorabelia collection in 2004 to fully fund Peyton's $34.5M signing bonus), that would create a cash flow problem that would hamstring them in getting other deals done for deserving players perhaps for a couple of seasons... It would also undercut the leagues collective bargaining position (which is revenue is down). Short of borrowing the money or paying it out of pocket (either of which is generally bad business), not sure what these teams should be expected to do, particularly given the fact that they don't know what the cap will be going forward, although it appears to be a given that contrary to what Gene Upshaw predicted, there will be one...

Signing bonus can only be amortized over 5 years at present, so if these two want 6 year deals as i assume they would, you're tied in to $8-9M against the cap for the next 5 seasons over and above salary. Once bonus is amortized it can never be reallocated, so you lose flexibility. Under normal circumstances these two could ink deals that relied more on guaranteed option or roster bonus and guaranteed salary. Right now they can't.

And while Brady certainly left money on the table, it wasn't that much. He had two years left on his deal when he extended in 2005. Manning was a franchise tagged due to be UFA when he signed his deal in 2004. Brady wasn't in line for a market deal because he was still two years away from reaching that market. The difference in the AAV of their deals was roughly $10M vs. $14M. The first 4 take home AAV was a lot closer, with Tom only falling behind because an extension couldn't be managed once the CBA opt out took effect in 2008 and his deal wasn't backloaded for bragging rights like Mannings (which was originally 9 years $126M with 2 voidable years in 2011-2012). Brady probably left a million or so on the table because by his own admission after taxes it's not nearly that consequential and he knew the money would be spread over the rest of the roster here because that's they way they roll. Any remaining difference was where they were in the market and who their agent was (Condon uses each QB deal he secures to market himself to the next QB in line to be drafted #1, Yee tends to do what works best for his client).

I sure hope when he shows up on time for TC people can just let him get on with the season and quit fretting for him... He's a big boy and he seems better equipped to manage and balance expectations than his fan base or the media.

And again, for perspective, Eli is the current market record holder at just under $16M per AAV. I don't think in the present circumstance either Brady or Manning will top $20 (which btw was what the media was predicting for Eli...). I think they will both come in somewhere between $16-18MAAV with more than 50% of it guaranteed. The devil is in how to do that short of cripling cash flow (see Irsay's remarks in hindsight about his own growing concern over the need to be able to sign up and coming players in case you think he hasn't had second thoughts about his earlier statement), and the answer may have to be do it next December or January when you have a better handle on where the CBA is going or in the spring when you either have one or you're probably operating under provisional ownership rules to avoid a lockout. Worst case scenario is a lockout, but then again no one is going anywhere during one of those and the owners won't come back after one absent a deal that suits them and includes the franchise tag. In which case they will likely both be exclusive tagged while their deal get hammered out.

Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks

It's been pointed out to him multiple times by those who comment on his articles and by both Miguel and fellow capologist Ian.

Breer is supposed to be the NFL reporter/columnist for the Herald. Lately he talks more about the Pats in the Globe and sports other than football on his twitter. I think he came back from Dallas via TSN thinking he had arrived (while I assumed he had bombed nationally...). Reminds me of players who've had a lot of undeserved smoke blown up their skirts by some blowhard coach. He's still just a young wannabe with a less than solid foundation within his own industry. I think the whole Globe crew is pretty full of themselves (his tweeting from camp was a clear example) and yet so uninformed, naive or just plain out of their league - not to mention operating in a leadership void - that it's just another sad commentary on the coverage this team has received in the last decade by a bunch of wannabe mediots looking for a way to get ahead...Face it, Breer is senior staffer on the football beat these days and two years ago he was blogging for the Metro West...

I didn't have much hope for Rappaport coming directly out of covering college ball, but he's impressed me in his second season with his drive and determination. Not quite Reiss but closer to that than any of the rest of them. He not only gets the stories ahead of the pack, he's thoughtful in his presentation and analysis. I hope he's in it for the long haul, unlike so many of his contemporaries...who either think they've arrived or they're hell bent to. It's all about the benjamins, and those come from TV and Radio and anscillary media gigs.

How pathetic is it that in a major market with a team that's been to 4 superbowls in the last 9 seasons a plagerizer with an agenda - Ron Borges holds the Pro Football HOF ballot and the sad fact is no one else is remotely qualified to...LOL And believe me when the time comes that will cost this team of the decade busts in Canton...

Originally Posted by A.C Vegas

That is one thing that cracks me up about the media, agent and owners they all use what ever numbers they want to make there point. anti pats bias "brady is only making 3 million".

Originally Posted by A.C Vegas

That is one thing that cracks me up about the media, agent and owners they all use what ever numbers they want to make there point. anti pats bias "brady is only making 3 million". Want to seem big tell everyone you got you client 41 million guarenteed but it's really closer to 30. need to make a big score for a client then you show off the real numbers the ones you ignored in the first place.
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