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Old 04-25-2006, 05:18 PM   #1
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1. Mathias Kiawanuka, DE, Boston College.

Viewed by some as a top-five pick prior to the 2005 season, Kiawanuka will now be lucky to be selected on day one of the draft. The perception is that Kiawanuka had his "ass whupped" at the Senior Bowl, and that he showed no leg strength or intensity. Three teams that we know of have him rated as a fourth-rounder.

2. Jimmy Williams, CB, Virginia Tech.

Williams is regarded by some league insiders as a "very bad dude" -- and not in the good way. We've heard that some teams have removed him completely from their boards.

3. Claude Wroten, DT, LSU.

We reported on Friday, citing three league sources, that Wroten tested positive at the combine. Although the teams know about the result, no one else in the media has made the connection between the positive result and the negative impact on his draft stock.

Wroten also was arrested on marijuana charges earlier this year, but the charges were dropped. To compound the problem, we're told that some teams were not enamored by his interviewing skills.

4. Derek Hagan, WR, Arizona State.

Before the 2005 season, he consistently was viewed as one of the top receivers in the country. His inconsistent hands are putting him in the round three range now.

5. Dominique Byrd, TE, USC.

Byrd was seen as one of the top two tight ends before the 2005 season. But a "brutal" pro day workout and a "lackadaisical attitude" have fueled a fall.

6. LenDale White, RB, USC.

For anyone who has been living under a rock or, even worse, on top of one, White is this year's poster child for how not to handle the run-up to the draft. A hamstring injury was disclosed when he showed up for his pro day workout. He managed a total of 15 reps in the 225-pound bench press.

At one point, White was a possible top-ten pick. Now, he'll be lucky to hear his name called by dinner time on Saturday. White's likely response?

"Mmmm. Dinner."
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Old 04-25-2006, 05:46 PM   #2
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Great. Now the Pats can pick up Kiwanuka at #86...
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I'm a big Kiwi fan. He has great character and a nice work ethic.
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One of the knocks on him is that he got all 9 of his sacks in just 3 of his games... I wonder if that means he can feast on average college tackles but can't beat the good college tackles. If that is the case he is going to have problems in the pros...
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I'm a big Kiwi fan. He has great character and a nice work ethic.
I agree.

Is it just me, or do all the prospects with Hawaiian-sounding last names always end up being good NFL players? Lofa Tatupu in Seattle, Troy Polamalu in Pittsburgh, Chris Naeole in Jacksonville, Kimo von Oelhoffen in Pittsburgh, Mark Tuinei in Dallas, young Junior Seau in San Diego, etc etc. I don't know, maybe it just seems that way.

Also, according to PonyExpress' college production posts, Kiwi has the potential to be a very good pro player.

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I agree.

Is it just me, or do all the prospects with Hawaiian-sounding last names always end up being good NFL players? Lofi Tatupu in Seattle, Troy Polamalu in Pittsburgh, Chris Naeole in Jacksonville, Kimo von Oelhoffen in Pittsburgh, Mark Tuinei in Dallas, young Junior Seau in San Diego, etc etc. I don't know, maybe it just seems that way.

Also, according to PonyExpress' college production posts, Kiwi has the potential to be a very good pro player.

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von Oelhoffen doesn't sound Hawaiian to me!
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One of the knocks on him is that he got all 9 of his sacks in just 3 of his games... I wonder if that means he can feast on average college tackles but can't beat the good college tackles. If that is the case he is going to have problems in the pros...
Or they could have looked @ the tapes of the VA game and seen he was the victim of a crackback & was injured and never the same this season. He was handled pretty easily by Ferguson during Senior Bowl practices.
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von Oelhoffen doesn't sound Hawaiian to me!
Well check out his photo and decide for yourself. The guy's first name is KIMO!!
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Kiwanuka is dropping because teams think he's weak, due to his 17 reps on the bench, and because he's too smart (getting a masters degree in English). Despite their opinions I am confident that barring a crippling leg injury, random gunfire, or the sudden desire to enter the clergy, Kiwanuka will become a top-notch NFL player.
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I never understood the obsession with bench press reps. Let's say you have two players. In their last two seasons, player A gets: 10 sacks, 15 tackles for loss, compared to player B, who got 5 sacks and 10 tackles for loss. However, player B benches 3 times more than player A. Who do you pick?

If Kiwi drops, people will be talking about him like people talked about Lofa last year (as in "how did that guy drop so far in the draft?").
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