OT: Marshawn Lynch has "zero trade value" - Page 2 - New England Patriots Forums

dhamz · 06-11-2010, 10:04 AM

Can we please stop comparing every bad guy in the NFL to Dillon and Moss when discussing whether the Pats should go get them?

Lynch is not similar. He is not long time veteran, with HOF caliber production, who has already made a ton of $, is tired of losing, is desperate to get into a winning situation, and willing to make sacrifices to get out of where he is. Lynch is none of those things.

You know what else isn't similar? The Pats locker room.

RayClay · 06-11-2010, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by furley

I understand the character issues and off the field concerns. But this situation feels like a bargain opportunity for a team.

This seems like a buy low option for New England. He's twenty-four, you'll have him for two seasons and he'll likely play with a chip on his shoulder. The Patriots could benefit from his motivation in the same way they'd with Antowain Smith.

Marshawn Lynch

You lost me when you used motivation and Antowain Smith in the same sentence.

RayClay · 06-11-2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PATSYLICIOUS

What's his history? Is it alot worse than say Corey Dillon's?

Don't blaspheme please. Jim Brown is kind of nasty too, but i don't see marginal RBs being compared to him.

I have liked Lynch as a RB, but colleges pump out decent RBs with crappy attitudes every year, why reach?

***Gwedd*** · 06-11-2010, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RayClay

Don't blaspheme please. Jim Brown is kind of nasty too, but i don't see marginal RBs being compared to him.

I have liked Lynch as a RB, but colleges pump out decent RBs with crappy attitudes every year, why reach?

I agree. There's always running backs to be had, and usually for fair prices. Why take the risk in this situation?

furley · 06-11-2010, 01:22 PM

First, I think that that writer's opinion is exaggerated. More likely, this is a case of Buffalo having a desire to trade a player but their desired asking price is too high of a trade-off.

Also, it's telling if San Diego didn't go hard after Lynch. He's from Oakland, the former Raider JaMarcus Russell is his cousin.

Again, Lynch is young and might just be an irresponsible person. That's due to immaturity. I don't know, I'd read the legal issues about him on Wikipedia and they sound minimal compared to players guilty of far worst. I'm not condoning his behavior. But, if you're New England, you've to at least kick the tires on this and see what is the least amount in value you've to give up for him. I mean this is the AFC East division. It's typical to see good players traded but remain in the same division. Remember when Bledsoe was traded...?

Lynch's legal issues

1. Victim of mistaken identity, his car was shot at by unknown assailants
2. Accused of sexual assault by ex-girlfriend but never was arrested or charged
3. Judge throws out a restraining order by ex-girlfriend
4. Fined and driver's license and car registration were revoked after pleading guilty to a traffic violation (he hit a pedestrian who was said to be intoxicated and drove off)
5. Pleaded guilty to a single gun misdemeanor charge and was sentenced to three years of probation and eighty hours of community service
6. Accused of stealing $20 from a woman in TGI Friday's but she later declined to press charges

He was suspended for three games last season for pleading guilty to a single gun misdemeanor charge, a violation of the NFL's personal conduct policy.

Lynch is said to be active in the Buffalo community.

lillestroom · 06-11-2010, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by furley

First, I think that that writer's opinion is exaggerated. More likely, this is a case of Buffalo having a desire to trade a player but their desired asking price is too high of a trade-off.

Also, it's telling if San Diego didn't go hard after Lynch. He's from Oakland, the former Raider JaMarcus Russell is his cousin.

Again, Lynch is young and might just be an irresponsible person. That's due to immaturity. I don't know, I'd read the legal issues about him on Wikipedia and they sound minimal compared to players guilty of far worst. I'm not condoning his behavior. But, if you're New England, you've to at least kick the tires on this and see what is the least amount in value you've to give up for him. I mean this is the AFC East division. It's typical to see good players traded but remain in the same division. Remember when Bledsoe was traded...?

Lynch's legal issues

1. Victim of mistaken identity, his car was shot at by unknown assailants
2. Accused of sexual assault by ex-girlfriend but never was arrested or charged
3. Judge throws out a restraining order by ex-girlfriend
4. Fined and driver's license and car registration were revoked after pleading guilty to a traffic violation (he hit a pedestrian who was said to be intoxicated and drove off)
5. Pleaded guilty to a single gun misdemeanor charge and was sentenced to three years of probation and eighty hours of community service
6. Accused of stealing $20 from a woman in TGI Friday's but she later declined to press charges

He was suspended for three games last season for pleading guilty to a single gun misdemeanor charge, a violation of the NFL's personal conduct policy.

Lynch is said to be active in the Buffalo community.

Active in what way ????

***AndyJohnson*** · 06-11-2010, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by furley

First, I think that that writer's opinion is exaggerated. More likely, this is a case of Buffalo having a desire to trade a player but their desired asking price is too high of a trade-off.

Also, it's telling if San Diego didn't go hard after Lynch. He's from Oakland, the former Raider JaMarcus Russell is his cousin.

Again, Lynch is young and might just be an irresponsible person. That's due to immaturity. I don't know, I'd read the legal issues about him on Wikipedia and they sound minimal compared to players guilty of far worst. I'm not condoning his behavior. But, if you're New England, you've to at least kick the tires on this and see what is the least amount in value you've to give up for him. I mean this is the AFC East division. It's typical to see good players traded but remain in the same division. Remember when Bledsoe was traded...?

Lynch's legal issues

1. Victim of mistaken identity, his car was shot at by unknown assailants
2. Accused of sexual assault by ex-girlfriend but never was arrested or charged
3. Judge throws out a restraining order by ex-girlfriend
4. Fined and driver's license and car registration were revoked after pleading guilty to a traffic violation (he hit a pedestrian who was said to be intoxicated and drove off)
5. Pleaded guilty to a single gun misdemeanor charge and was sentenced to three years of probation and eighty hours of community service
6. Accused of stealing $20 from a woman in TGI Friday's but she later declined to press charges

He was suspended for three games last season for pleading guilty to a single gun misdemeanor charge, a violation of the NFL's personal conduct policy.

Lynch is said to be active in the Buffalo community.

Just curious. How is it a case of mistaken identity if the shooter is unknown?

Badluck · 06-11-2010, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyJohnson

Just curious. How is it a case of mistaken identity if the shooter is unknown?

there was a shooting recently in boston where a kid wearing a helmet was shot and killed by unknown shooters and it was a case of mistaken identity

the kid who was shot was driving a similar scooter as one of his neighbors who was apparently involved in gangs

PATSYLICIOUS · 06-11-2010, 02:22 PM

By history I am talking about character issues. I don't remember comparing Lynch's on field performance to Dillon or Moss or 'blaspheming' anything so I'm not sure what those posts were aimed at. I couldn't recall what his past violations were and was seeing if anybody could list what he did to assist me with my ignorance of the past incidents, I didn't annoint him the next Corey Dillon. I thought that by clearly stating that I'm not defending Lynch people would have figured that.

PATSYLICIOUS · 06-11-2010, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by furley

First, I think that that writer's opinion is exaggerated. More likely, this is a case of Buffalo having a desire to trade a player but their desired asking price is too high of a trade-off.

Also, it's telling if San Diego didn't go hard after Lynch. He's from Oakland, the former Raider JaMarcus Russell is his cousin.

Again, Lynch is young and might just be an irresponsible person. That's due to immaturity. I don't know, I'd read the legal issues about him on Wikipedia and they sound minimal compared to players guilty of far worst. I'm not condoning his behavior. But, if you're New England, you've to at least kick the tires on this and see what is the least amount in value you've to give up for him. I mean this is the AFC East division. It's typical to see good players traded but remain in the same division. Remember when Bledsoe was traded...?

Lynch's legal issues

1. Victim of mistaken identity, his car was shot at by unknown assailants
2. Accused of sexual assault by ex-girlfriend but never was arrested or charged
3. Judge throws out a restraining order by ex-girlfriend
4. Fined and driver's license and car registration were revoked after pleading guilty to a traffic violation (he hit a pedestrian who was said to be intoxicated and drove off)
5. Pleaded guilty to a single gun misdemeanor charge and was sentenced to three years of probation and eighty hours of community service
6. Accused of stealing $20 from a woman in TGI Friday's but she later declined to press charges

He was suspended for three games last season for pleading guilty to a single gun misdemeanor charge, a violation of the NFL's personal conduct policy.

Lynch is said to be active in the Buffalo community.

Thanks for posting the history. Eh, those things may not sound like a big deal but when somebody's involved with the law that many times it's definitely an issue. I think I'd rather look elsewhere