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Old 05-27-2010, 05:07 PM   #21
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Old 05-27-2010, 05:17 PM   #22
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Actually, I think Hobbs is capable of doing that all by himself.

Asante isn't much of a tackler--neither was Deion Sanders.

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Not sure what part of this you have a problem with. I'm not comparing Samuel to Sanders. My point is that tackling ability for cornerbacks is about as important as blocking ability is for a wide receiver. I'm not saying that it's irrelevant. But the fact that Deion Sanders was a lousy tackler isn't going to keep him out of the hall of fame, just as the fact that Randy Moss is a lousy blocker isn't going to keep him out of Canton either.
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Not sure what part of this you have a problem with. I'm not comparing Samuel to Sanders. My point is that tackling ability for cornerbacks is about as important as blocking ability is for a wide receiver. I'm not saying that it's irrelevant. But the fact that Deion Sanders was a lousy tackler isn't going to keep him out of the hall of fame, just as the fact that Randy Moss is a lousy blocker isn't going to keep him out of Canton either.
Randy Moss is actually a pretty good blocker for a WR.. So is Wes Welker.. Deion Sanders tackling ability is being understated by you. In fact, you are besmirching Deion with the comparison. Samuel makes Deion look like Tedy Bruschi...
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Randy Moss is actually a pretty good blocker for a WR.. So is Wes Welker.. Deion Sanders tackling ability is being understated by you. In fact, you are besmirching Deion with the comparison. Samuel makes Deion look like Tedy Bruschi...
Moss was not a particularly good blocker until he came here. As for the comparison, neither liked to tackle. It's actually extremely well known that Sanders didn't like to tackle. I also wish that someone had the game tape from YouTube to show the game back in the mid-90's where Sanders was actually in the position to make a tackle on a bigger receiver (maybe a TE if I can remember correctly) and actually MOVED OUT OF THE WAY. Samuel is a terrible tackler, but I've never seen him move out of the way of an oncoming receiver. As for your last sentence, the highest amount of tackles that Sanders logged in a single year was 66. Samuel's career high for a single season is 64.
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Not sure what part of this you have a problem with. I'm not comparing Samuel to Sanders. My point is that tackling ability for cornerbacks is about as important as blocking ability is for a wide receiver. I'm not saying that it's irrelevant. But the fact that Deion Sanders was a lousy tackler isn't going to keep him out of the hall of fame, just as the fact that Randy Moss is a lousy blocker isn't going to keep him out of Canton either.
Hate to break it to you, but Deion Sanders was the only NFL player in history who had such off-the chart talent that he could get away with not tackling. To mention Asante in the same sentence as Deion is a joke.

Some of the comments in this thread are absolutely killing me. there are actually people who think that being a good tackler isn't necessarily a very basic requirement of being an NFL player? Are you kidding me?
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Yes. I've heard that every NFL player has at least one flaw in their game as well.
You must be a holy terror at flag football.
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Not sure what part of this you have a problem with. I'm not comparing Samuel to Sanders. My point is that tackling ability for cornerbacks is about as important as blocking ability is for a wide receiver. I'm not saying that it's irrelevant. But the fact that Deion Sanders was a lousy tackler isn't going to keep him out of the hall of fame, just as the fact that Randy Moss is a lousy blocker isn't going to keep him out of Canton either.
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Hate to break it to you, but Deion Sanders was the only NFL player in history who had such off-the chart talent that he could get away with not tackling. To mention Asante in the same sentence as Deion is a joke.

Some of the comments in this thread are absolutely killing me. there are actually people who think that being a good tackler isn't necessarily a very basic requirement of being an NFL player? Are you kidding me?
At the risk of being too argumentative, please do yourself a favor: don't quote someone and then make a comment that clearly indicates that you haven't even read the quote. Suggest you read the part that says "I'm not comparing Samuel to Sanders." Then read the part where it says "I'm not saying it's irrelevant."
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I never played flag football. And what the hell does this even mean in response to what I said?
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First of all, once again ESPN is about 3 weeks late on this story, since its already been discussed. Second of all, its NOT news. This was ONE of the reasons the Pats didn't make the elite offer to Assante. He has ALWAYS had holes in his game, and the Pats refused to pay him to be an all arouind elite CB, when he wasn't.

But to give the "devil his due" he IS a great playmaker, and can be counted on to make "plays" throughout the season. He is one of the best CBs in the league in zone coverage. HOWEVER his tackling is poor and his press coverage skills are average.

BB was aware of these pluses and minuses when the decision had to made on the value of his contract. The fact that it has taken a few seasons to adequately replace Samuel, doesn't diminish the bigger picture, that BB made the right decision what the Patriots could afford to pay him....and why. Its just taken THIS long for the rest of us to catch up.

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