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Old 05-19-2010, 02:53 PM   #11
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While they were at it, why didn't the court dismiss ALL Green Beans fans as agents of agitating irrelevancy?
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While they were at it, why didn't the court dismiss ALL Green Beans fans as agents of agitating irrelevancy?
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"Lawyer Shepard Goldfein, representing the NFL, argued that fans likely would buy tickets even if they knew the Patriots were stealing signals"

Wow even the NFL lawyer got it wrong, the fine was not for stealing signals or even taping, just taping in the wrong location. That and the "whopping fine" for the "horrendous violation" from the yellow towel waving judge, it is no wonder the general public misconstrue the crime. Even people who should know better and be more guarded against slander and misrepresentation slip into media inspired interpretations.

I agree that going to trial would have enabled some of the myth to be dispelled, on the other hand truth has no audience with prejudice and bigotry.

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My favorite excerpt from the decision is

"Mayer further does not appear to contest the fact that a team is evidently permitted by the rules to engage in a wide variety of arguably 'dishonest' conduct to uncover an opponent’s signals. For example, a team is apparently free to take advantage of the knowledge that a newly hired player or coach takes with him after leaving his former team, and it may even have personnel on the sidelines who try to pick up the opposing team’s signals with the assistance of lip-reading, binoculars, note-taking, and other devices. In addition, even Mayer acknowledged in his amended complaint that '[t]eams are allowed to have a limited number of their own videographers on the sideline during the game.'"

http://www.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinarch/092237p.pdf

This pretty much sums up the absurdity of all the Spygate claims and tainted titles.
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I agree that going to trial would have enabled some of the myth to be dispelled, on the other hand truth has no audience with prejudice and bigotry.
Agreed on both counts.

But the Patriots have to bear some of the blame for the misperceptions. Week after week throughout Spygate, they allowed lies and half-truths to stand without challenging them to the point where the mediots on ESPN felt they could say anything they wanted to say, knowing that no one would challenge their veracity. I am to this day amazed by the total lack of a "media strategy" by the Pats throughout the whole thing. The only consistent and credible push-back came from posts on this Board.

At this point, the good news is that "time" is on the Patriots side, as memories of the entire mess recede in the minds of most fans outside New England; let lying sleeping dogs lie, because when they wake up all they do is lie some more.
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Agreed on both counts.

But the Patriots have to bear some of the blame for the misperceptions. Week after week throughout Spygate, they allowed lies and half-truths to stand without challenging them to the point where the mediots on ESPN felt they could say anything they wanted to say, knowing that no one would challenge their veracity. I am to this day amazed by the total lack of a "media strategy" by the Pats throughout the whole thing. The only consistent and credible push-back came from posts on this Board.

At this point, the good news is that "time" is on the Patriots side, as memories of the entire mess recede in the minds of most fans outside New England; let lying sleeping dogs lie, because when they wake up all they do is lie some more.
very astute post..seriously
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Sen Comcast loses primary --- check.
Lawsuit dimissed --- check.
Herald fires Tomase -- still waiting.
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sen comcast loses primary --- check.
Lawsuit dimissed --- check.
herald fires tomase -- still waiting.
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"Lawyer Shepard Goldfein, representing the NFL, argued that fans likely would buy tickets even if they knew the Patriots were stealing signals"

Wow even the NFL lawyer got it wrong, the fine was not for stealing signals or even taping, just taping in the wrong location. That and the "whopping fine" for the "horrendous violation" from the yellow towel waving judge, it is no wonder the general public misconstrue the crime. Even people who should know better and be more guarded against slander and misrepresentation slip into media inspired interpretations.

I agree that going to trial would have enabled some of the myth to be dispelled, on the other hand truth has no audience with prejudice and bigotry.
Well said. It disgusts me that even many Patriot fans are under the impression that our "violation" was anything more than a technicality.

It was a Witch Hunt, plain and simple: A dramatically trumped up charge, motivated by nothing more than jealousy.
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my favorite excerpt from the decision is

"mayer further does not appear to contest the fact that a team is evidently permitted by the rules to engage in a wide variety of arguably 'dishonest' conduct to uncover an opponent’s signals. For example, a team is apparently free to take advantage of the knowledge that a newly hired player or coach takes with him after leaving his former team, and it may even have personnel on the sidelines who try to pick up the opposing team’s signals with the assistance of lip-reading, binoculars, note-taking, and other devices. In addition, even mayer acknowledged in his amended complaint that '[t]eams are allowed to have a limited number of their own videographers on the sideline during the game.'"

http://www.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinarch/092237p.pdf

this pretty much sums up the absurdity of all the spygate claims and tainted titles.
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