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Re: Patriots have the second oldest offensive line in the NFL
With all the talk that we should have taken Dez and that he will be a star for Dallas will mean that Dallas's old OL better give Romo time to find him or it won't matter how much talent he has.
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Re: Patriots have the second oldest offensive line in the NFL
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Originally Posted by BelichickFan
I'm expecting Kaczur and Vollmer to be the starters this time next year as Light's contract expires at the end of this season. Not that I love Kaczur, but that's what I expect to happen.
There are some here that want LeVoir in Kaczur's spot...I don't know about that.
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Re: Patriots have the second oldest offensive line in the NFL
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I'm expecting Kaczur and Vollmer to be the starters this time next year as Light's contract expires at the end of this season. Not that I love Kaczur, but that's what I expect to happen.
That's why I said it was a nitpick. This year, he doesn't look to be penciled in as a starter at RT and I don't expect him to be. The fact that he was pulled at the end of the season last year in favor of an extremely raw rookie who, a lot of times, required help from a TE speaks volumes about what BB and Dante thought of Kaczur. Neal leaving the line-up exposed his weaknesses just as much as they exposed Connolly's. The only difference is that Connolly was supposed to be a back-up (and we knew as much) while Kaczur was supposed to be a starter. I also find it funny that the only defense that anybody can come up with for him is that he signed an extension. WOW, what an Earth shattering defense! IMO, getting pulled from the starting line-up in favor of said rookie says more than signing an extension. Me? I sincerely hope that Kaczur is not the starter at RT in 2011. I like him as a back-up, though...
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Re: Patriots have the second oldest offensive line in the NFL
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Me? I sincerely hope that Kaczur is not the starter at RT in 2011. I like him as a back-up, though...
I've never liked him that much, even when he was "ok" as a rookie that was just ok in the sense that he didn't totally suck, he wasn't actually good. Still, we've never had a great OL, just a decent, effective one. If Ohrnberger looks decent in camp this year, who knows but I guess they must have liked him for a reason, then a line going forward of Vollmer, Mankins, Koppen, Ohrnberger, Kaczur isn't wholly worse than what we've had over time. We may need a Guard where I have O penciled in.
Re: Patriots have the second oldest offensive line in the NFL
If NE transitions to a more balanced offensive attack, the OL will be fine regardless of age. When you throw the ball 35 times a game, they'd better be able to hold their blocks and handle good edge rushers. Haven't we learned that by watching the difference between the Pats in the early 2000's vs 2007? A ball control offense makes an average OL good because their weaknesses aren't as exposed. ALL OL make a point that they enjoy run blocking more than pass blocking... that speaks volumes.
The drafting of two TEs gives me hope that we'll see a more consistent use of the run game and play action. Please!
OLine is fine. More rush attempts + more play action + short to intermediate passing attack = Brady protected + fresher defense. If my memory doesn't fail me, it also meant three SB victories.
Re: Patriots have the second oldest offensive line in the NFL
What I love about Kaczur is that he can backup RT, LT, and presumably RG. I don't want him starting, but he's an ideal #3 OT.
As for the OL as a whole, we've seen a big chance at LB and DB, so it's probably time to go back to the lines in next year's draft. As much as everyone wants a WR, I'm guessing those 2 firsts will be used on a DE and a OG.
Re: Patriots have the second oldest offensive line in the NFL
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As much as everyone wants a WR, I'm guessing those 2 firsts will be used on a DE and a OG.
The stud WR is nice but for young "receivers" we have Tate, Price, Edelman, Welker (still young enough to be part of the plan going forward), Hernandez and Gronkowski. Unless the young guys really bomb out I don't see a top 15 pick being used on a WR.
Re: Patriots have the second oldest offensive line in the NFL
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Originally Posted by PATRIOTSFANINPA
As we look into 2011,the RBs on the Pats aren't the only area that needs to get addressed for younger players.
the age between oldest OL and mid pack is only a matter of a year or less in most cases.
So we need to get rid of our starting line and find guys who are a year younger at each position?
I find it hard to get worked up over the fact that the average OLine is a year younger than ours, particularly if that average is low because they are starting rookies.
But I guess when the sky refuses to fall year after year, desperation sets in and you'll take anything you can.
Either we are starting unproven youngsters who have proven nothing and we desperately need veteran players, or we are too old and need to get younger.
Anyway, shouldn't the goal be to be the best at what you do, not the youngest?
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Re: Patriots have the second oldest offensive line in the NFL
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So we need to get rid of our starting line and find guys who are a year younger at each position?
I find it hard to get worked up over the fact that the average OLine is a year younger than ours, particularly if that average is low because they are starting rookies.
But I guess when the sky refuses to fall year after year, desperation sets in and you'll take anything you can.
Either we are starting unproven youngsters who have proven nothing and we desperately need veteran players, or we are too old and need to get younger.
Anyway, shouldn't the goal be to be the best at what you do, not the youngest?
I agree with the goal being the best over age. Our O-Line is good, but not what other fanbases thing it's amazing.
However, we aren't the best at what we could be at RB.