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Old 04-03-2006, 07:56 PM   #1
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Cool Alright Lets settle this right now, You are the Pats GM, Who do you draft?

At the #21 pick of the draft I would not take a LB. Why are you guys so high on Carpenter? Just because he working out with Vrabel doesn't mean anything. You can speculate all you want, no one knows what the Pats will do with the Pick. The draft is too deep at LB, get another player that can help you out in other areas, then in the 2nd round of even third, you should be able to get a quality player. So if Maroney is available, I take him. Who knows if Dillon will show up in shape and will stay on the field. He's 31 years old, and the lack of running game was part of the reason why opposing teams tee'd off on Brady. Not to forget the injury's to the O-Line. We NEED TO GROOM A REPLACEMENT NOW!



So here is your chance. You are the Pats GM, who do you draft and why?
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Old 04-03-2006, 08:00 PM   #2
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If we choose a defensive player..the New England Patriots select Manny Lawson or Kamerion Wimbley

If we choose an offensive player..the New England Patriots select DeAngelo Williams or Laurence Maroney. Im hesistate about both

Williams...small? Durability? Next Kevin Faulk?

Maroney..small? Product of system?

Both are smaller..very fast...good vision..Maroney has more of a breakaway speed
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Old 04-03-2006, 09:01 PM   #3
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Why am I so high on Bobby Carpenter?

He has the ideal size to play 3-4 linebacker. He runs a 4.66 40 and is an accomplished pass rusher. He's a sound tackler, good in coverage. Proficient against both the pass and the run. He's known for his toughness and has a non stop motor. He's versatile enough to play anywhere in a 3-4 defense and has enough experience to come in and contribute as a rookie.

Compare that to Lawson, a workout warrior who is undersized and weak against the run, and Wimbley, who is a one trick pony.
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And with the 21st pick in the NFL Draft the New England Patriots select...

Chad Greenway, linebacker, well mavfan2390, what do you think of the pick?

well, Greenways instincts are second to none, he's truely an impact player, BUT he needs to add 10 to 15 punds and really hit the weight or steroids (j/k) if he wants to succeed, however, by midseason everyone will know his name and be excited about who the pats have drafted, expect BB to keep him mostly in coverage at first (blitzing only now and then), while he bulks, and when he adds weight, expect a player many will compare to fellow patriot roosevelt colvin,

now, for the rest

2. Maurice Drew
3a. Kai Parham
3b. Martin Nance
4a. Orien Harris
4b. Devin Hester

im a lazy gm, so ill let pioli take over for the rest
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Old 04-03-2006, 09:41 PM   #5
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And with the 21st pick in the NFL Draft the New England Patriots select...

Chad Greenway, linebacker, well mavfan2390, what do you think of the pick?

well, Greenways instincts are second to none, he's truely an impact player, BUT he needs to add 10 to 15 punds and really hit the weight or steroids (j/k) if he wants to succeed, however, by midseason everyone will know his name and be excited about who the pats have drafted, expect BB to keep him mostly in coverage at first (blitzing only now and then), while he bulks, and when he adds weight, expect a player many will compare to fellow patriot roosevelt colvin,

now, for the rest

2. Maurice Drew
3a. Kai Parham
3b. Martin Nance
4a. Orien Harris
4b. Devin Hester

im a lazy gm, so ill let pioli take over for the rest
You could draft Bobby Carpenter and get instant results since he sheads blockers quite well and is a great tackler. No weight gaining needed to begin with.
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Old 04-03-2006, 09:44 PM   #6
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I'd say at this point Carpenter.

Someone asked why people are high on him. Well, I'll fully admit, I'm merely a casual college fan, but I catch my share of games.

My main impression of Carpenter the Texas game early in the year, by all means a huge game for the regular season. Well, him and Hawk both had amazing games, Carpenter definitely looked on his level, if not better. And Hawk is a lock for Top 10.

If Carpenter had not broken his leg and played a full season at the same level he started, no doubt he would be a top 15 pick. Likely 2nd LB taken after Hawk.

I think Pats would be "reaching" for him at #21, but so were the Hawks last year with Tatupu. Sometimes, you just gotta take a guy bc he's a player. Carpenter is a player.

Oh, and as others have said, he has the BB size. The reason IMO NE has not taken lots of LBs, is few good highly ranked guys have the size BB likes. Carpenter has it.
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You could draft Bobby Carpenter and get instant results since he sheads blockers quite well and is a great tackler. No weight gaining needed to begin with.
In this draft there's Hawk, Greenway, and the rest, I know he didn't perform well at the combine, but those things happen, although Bobby has a football body already, Greenways instincts are at a whole other level. You can have Greenway hit the weights hard, and turn into a physical specimen, but you can't teach instincts to Carpenter.

Don't take my word for it: Smart player with excellent instincts and great football intelligence

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sco...dgreenway.html
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In this draft there's Hawk, Greenway, and the rest, I know he didn't perform well at the combine, but those things happen, although Bobby has a football body already, Greenways instincts are at a whole other level. You can have Greenway hit the weights hard, and turn into a physical specimen, but you can't teach instincts to Carpenter.

Don't take my word for it: Smart player with excellent instincts and great football intelligence

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sco...dgreenway.html
Whole other level?? Dude, did u ever watch Carpenter play ball?? He was and still is just as good as AJ Hawk. I agree with tomboneay. If Carpenter hadn't injured his leg, we would be seeing a totally different outlook on this guy.
If we can get him where we are then we will have gotten a major steal. He can play inside, outside and DE. Greenway cant do that. Greenway just isnt right for this system IMO. Too much of a finesse player. Carpenter however, can come in and get it done at any spot.
In all reality though. We aren't going to get either of these guys. BB will probably go a totally different route. TE with our luck I have full confidence in his decisions though. Kai Parham would b a good pick in later rounds for us...i would really like that pick.
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i guess i just disagree, i really felt carpenter was the product of a system, he just seemed idk....oh well, we'll see

oh and i have a minor change, if we can get sinorice moss in the second round, i want him, he like bethel johnson with sure hands, and good routes,
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