Jets are "discussing" signing free agent Adalius Thomas - Page 5 - New England Patriots Forums

***Deus Irae*** · 04-26-2010, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyJohnson

According to Thomas' own words, BB said he was not rushing the passer because he was not good at it. So Bill Belichick would disagree that his pass rushing ability is 'fine'. I suppose you think that you are right and he is wrong?

Thomas, as I recall, was leading the team in sacks in 2008 before he broke his arm. In 2007, he had started fast and then gotten injured, struggling afterwards. You may recall, however, that he was able to get to the passer in the Super Bowl.

I suppose you think the opposing QBs just ran to him and told him to tag them down, though.

Patspsycho · 04-26-2010, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KontradictioN

However, with the Jets (should he go there), he would have a decidedly higher number of pass rushing attempts which should see his amount of sacks to go up. To put it simply, it wouldn't suprise me to see Thomas' sack total double from 2009 to 2010.

This at the very least will happen because he is going back to an one gap system.

Fencer · 04-26-2010, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Deus Irae

Thomas becoming a Jet was the expected outcome for many of us, so this comes as no surprise.

Hey, a post of yours I can completely agree with!

Fencer · 04-26-2010, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dhamz

It will be a no risk signing for the Jets. He'll be cheap, motivated, and playing in a system he thrived in previously. If he performs well it is great for them. If he doesn't it isn't like they are going to pay him franchise $ and build their defense around him.

Heck, they'll probably pay him good money for one uncapped year.

They're going full Yankees, at least for one season.

***Rob0729*** · 04-26-2010, 08:11 PM

I am not all that worried about Thomas going to the Jets. Just another head case going in with potentially a good lockerroom guy leaving (Bryan Thomas). As for Rex Ryan knowing how to use Thomas, if Thomas' skills have eroded it won't really matter. We know that at least Ray Lewis felt Thomas was more of a product of the guys around him (and the Ravens' front seven was far better than the Jets' is) than his skills.

Thomas wasn't nearly as quick last year as he was the first year he was there. Even when he rushed the passer, he was slow to get to him. If that is because of age and his injuries over the last two years and not because he was disinterested, Ryan won't be able to turn Thomas back into what he was.

Thomas just adds the head cases that were added this offseason to four (Thomas, Cromartie, Holmes, and Wilson). You could add Tomlinson to that list although he is a bit more of a diva than a head case. Seriously, the new stadium better have really, really big lockerrooms because I don't know if they are going to fit all those big heads in one room together.

BSR · 04-26-2010, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Deus Irae

Thomas, as I recall, was leading the team in sacks in 2008 before he broke his arm. In 2007, he had started fast and then gotten injured, struggling afterwards. You may recall, however, that he was able to get to the passer in the Super Bowl.

I suppose you think the opposing QBs just ran to him and told him to tag them down, though.

I was always wondering what ever happened to the guy at the end of that superbowl. Damn shame about that injury in 2008. Otherwise, who knows what could have been.

Scouse Patriot · 04-26-2010, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DarrylS

not all that complicated..

In a rose tinted world maybe not...

***KontradictioN*** · 04-26-2010, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ausbacker

You didn't bother to properly read my post did you? I singled out that the sack total isn't the be all and end all of the Jets defensive scheme knowing it wasn't.

Sacks aren't the know all, end all of a defensive scheme. They are, however, a petty good barometer of how many times a player rushed the passer and was successful at doing it, which was my original argument. I would be shocked if Thomas wasn't more productive in Ryan's one gap 3-4.

Brady2Welker · 04-26-2010, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ausbacker

Not fussed. Personality clash or not being benched and playing like a pansy only reflects poorly on Adalius Thomas and Adalius Thomas only. I'd love for the Jets to sign him. LdT, Holmes, Edwards, Thomas and the rest of the gang in the same locker room. They better hope they go better than 9-7 in the regular season.

I don't buy into people saying it will be easier to get sacks. The Jets showed a small ability to get sacks last season and it will be the same this year. What they have been able to do under Rex Ryan is create match ups and pressure schemes that hurried QB's. Brady picked it apart and so did Manning. People are underestimating that the NFL has had a season to see how Ryan's Jets work. It will be far easier the scheme against them this season now the Cinderella period is over.

Thanks for your contribution Adalius. I wished it were more but you simply weren't man enough to take that responsibility on your shoulders and run with it as one of the remaining veterans.

If Hernandez/Gronk can abuse their nickle/lb corps like Welker did, I see no reason that we couldn't beat them.

***ausbacker*** · 04-26-2010, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KontradictioN

Sacks aren't the know all, end all of a defensive scheme. They are, however, a petty good barometer of how many times a player rushed the passer and was successful at doing it, which was my original argument. I would be shocked if Thomas wasn't more productive in Ryan's one gap 3-4.

I'm just going to let it go Kontra....