Miguel

1.) Seymour is probably the only Pro-Bowler from the 2001 draft that is still playing under his rookie contract.
2.) Seymour's rookie deal included $10.2 million in escalators. Seymour earned only $3.25 million of those escalators. When a 4-time Pro Bowler, 3-time All-Pro player, and a mainstay of a team that won 3 Super Bowls in a 5-year span earns less than a third of his escalators, there is something wrong with that contract.

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PatsChamps363839

Seymour is going to demand a big signing bonus. I hope the Patriots can afford his greed.

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shakadave

I've wondered about this before. What sorts of escalators were in his contract that haven't been met? 2 TDs per year and he only scored 1? 10 sacks a year?

A good agent would have gotten Richard escalators like "punched the LT back on his heels and threw him at the quarterback"!!!

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OntarioPatsFan

Greed? The guy just wants what he's entitled to, being one of the most dominant defensive linemen in the game. I hope Seymour stays in NE, but I'll understand if he moves on for more money, just like Milloy, AV, and Willie Mac.

BelichickFan

He'll have to do it as a Franchised player, there's no way he just walks.

festy1986

Seymor is the Pats best defensive player, makes the biggest impact concerning all other posistions and thus as a result he should earn more money then the rest.

If they let Seymor walk over money, and the reason being he isn't worth it. That excuse won't fly around NE no more, trust me without seymor the team becomes less then average.

But I don't worry bout that, because Seymor will get the money and from the Pats.

Box_O_Rocks

Less then average, eh? That lends itself to the sign superstars and ignore the depth arguments so popular in recent weeks.

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BelichickFan

Tough talk from someone who doesn't have to resolve the situation. What if he says $9M a year or Franchise me at $9M. Then he and Brady count for $20M for just two players. I want Seymour as much as anyone but there comes a time to trade and move on. If they can get a mid-late #1 for him in 12 months then which would you rather have, the #1 and $8M or so to spend on other players . . . or Seymour. That money can go a long way. Sure I want Seymour but if he insists on getting the last dollar we may be better off trading him.

As a few people still don't get it - it's not about money, it's about cap space. Kraft would pay him the money but is $8-$10M for Seymour worth $8-$10M less across the roster especially when you can also trade him (see: John Abraham) and get good picks too.

kolbitr

Out of curiosity, I compiled a list of other Pro Bowlers from the 2001 draft (I have probably missed some, esp. alternates; e.g., did Reggie Wayne make the PB as an alternate?):

Alge Crumpler (3x), Casey Hampton (2x), Chad Johnson (3x), Chris Chambers (1x), Deuce McAllister (2x), Drew Brees (1x), Koren Robinson (1x), Kris Jenkins (1x), LaDainian Tomlinson (3x), Marcus Stroud (3x), Michael Vick (3x), Nate Clements (1x), Richard Seymour (4x), Rudi Johnson (1x, as a 4th-rounder), Santana Moss (1x), Steve Smith (2x, as a 3rd-rounder), Travis Henry (1x).

I have no idea about whether any of these players is still playing under their rookie contracts (obviously, we know some who are not!); Richard Seymour certainly stands out as the only four-time selection (again, unless I have missed an appearance).

mgteich

The reason for working so hard on the cap is so that we can afford players like Brady and Seymour for $10M a year each,