IcyPatriot

Like my Willie post...this again supposedly came from Mike Lynch on a news show. Anyone see this show(news)...please fill in with what you saw...Thanks.

That's really low...seems too low really...not sure if what i heard was true.

BelichickFan

It seems to low although we don't know things like hang time on kickoffs, etc, which could drastically affect coverage but not to our eyes. If it's true I'm sure there's some basis to it especially with Belichick passing up lots of FG last year. And I bet Ernie Adams is behind some of the research.

IcyPatriot

Hopefully...someone here saw the show.

Miguel

And yet they were willing to make Adam the highest paid kicker in the league and contacted Adam the day he signed with the Colts. Actions speak louder than words.

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PatsChick87

BB knows what stat's are worth. He'd be the first one to say that the intangibles will never show up on a stat sheet. That being said, I'm sure the Pats use stats frequently when scouting, drafting, negotiating, and overall personel decisions.

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Chris

i dont buy this report one bit.. Holley was on EEI talking about it yesterday,... He was basically saying even if BB had a list like that he would never make it public.. ANd he couldnt even name 16 other better kickers..

NE39

I saw it. Lynch did say that.

He also brought up the Cornrich/Belichick connection and says it effected Adam's feellings on negotiations.

Pats726

I heard that, but...I just do not think it holds water. If the Pats leaked it..not smart at all. I am sure they have many ratings for kickers, but making it public?? Maybe it is in one category or?? A future projection..who knows at all!!

Dank Franklin

Who knows about the validity of a "list" like that, but personally I'm getting tired of all the fans and media out there that consider AV the BEST kicker in the league. He's NOT. Plain and simple. Granted, he's made some of the best clutch kicks in the history of the game, but he is NOT the best kicker in the league!

AndyJohnson

Miguel,
What is your opinion here?
Did AV want to leave? Did the Pats just get uotbid? Did they refuse to up the ante? Was that wrong?

I see that you are against the 20/20 hindsight bashing, which is admirable.
Im not sure though if you mean this as criticism of the Pats, of Vinatieri, of both or neither.

Not a challenge to your post, I'd really like to know your insight on this.

It is hard to reconcile not upping the offer when it may not have been much more needed.
My feeling is that the issue was in the signing bonus, and while the Pats were willing to make him the highest paid, they were uncomfortable committing as big a signing bonus fearful of decline during the deal. But you have better insight to these issues than me