Disgusted With Disparaging Vinatieri Remarks Today - Page 2 - New England Patriots Forums

markd · 03-22-2006, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Patti37

AV is an icon in NE. It is unfortunate he will not retire a Patriot.

I think this will pretty much erase his icon status now. . . especially if, god forbid, the Colts should ever beat us by a field goal.

Markd

Patriot Games · 03-22-2006, 05:16 AM

Anyone who trashes this guy is an idiot. He did everything the pats ever asked for on the field. He was the franchise player for 2 season. I'm sure he would have preferred a long-term deal. Now he has the chance to get one and the team didn't offer him as much money. Where's the problem?

This is a guy who probably made very little money in his first 3-5 years in the league with little or no signing bonus.

This is also probably his largest contract. The next one he'll sign he'll be in his mid-thirties.

He's one torn ACL on kickoff coverage away from being useless as a kicker. He played under that risk the last 2 years as the franchise player. He wants security and people are going to criticize him for that?

Like I said, anyone who criticizes this guy is an idiot.

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Originally Posted by F.B.N.

Anyone using derogatory language against Adam Vinatieri should be sentenced to 5-years as a Cardinals, Lions or Buccaneers fan. Sure, free speech is great and Dr.Phil says confronting the problem is great.
Problem is...IMO...YOU...you and your selfish desires to control the life of someone who wouldn't know you if he passed you on the street.

One of the premier players in New England history...in all 4 major sports...makes a personal decision and gets kicked in the butt for it.

A player who always worked hard, supported his teamates, supported the orginization and never acted in any way that brought shame to the team.

Of all the unknowns in the draft each year you are lucky to get a player like this...we didn't...he came in as a free agent and left with an impeccable resume.

Vinatieri...as I have been saying since Belichick did not resign him is "all about the money"..."JUST A KICKER WHO IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY". So he happens to be one of the all time greats in the NFL>>>

Why is being great equated with loyalty? i'M SORRY...BUT I HAVE NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHY GREATNESS IS ASSOCIATED WITH LOYALTY...

Thanks Adam for helping us enjoy 3 SB championships.
Thanks Adam for sparing us the anguish of losing the Super Bowl.
Thanks Adam for 10 years of no journeymen kickers and hackers.
Thanks Adam for the celebrations...I don't recall you being hated then.
Thanks Adam for knowing you owe us nothing, it's your life...not ours.
Hope you enjoy kicking for the Colts...change makes the NFL better.
As a longtime Celtics fan I know that change is for the better.

To all you 2-faced Patriots fans cursing Adam today I have 1 question. Can Adam call you names when you leave your job for a better paying one with new adventures?

I've never been so disgusted seeing even "SENIOR MEMBERS" slamming Adam Vinatieri's reputation...kicking him like useless refuse. Sorry, it's not right and he doesn't deserve it at all.

But, it's your right to praise or slam as you please...If I was Adam I would be considering a field goal rebate right about now...maybe he can take back any 5 kicks he chooses...turnabout is fair play after all.

Flying Fungi · 03-22-2006, 05:24 AM

sign me up--love the guy, hate the results, no blame to lay, just a fact of life...

I hate the Colts, but as a football fan, I see the reasoning for his decision just based upon minimal speculation:

Veteran kicker with 3 career touchbacks on kickoffs (give or take) that played college ball in South Dakota and made his mark in New England wants to balance his personal life, earnings and future name (in the league) by moving to a eam that plays in a non-cold weather environment/dome, offered guaranteed money and has a Top 5 NFL QB at the helm. From an objective viewpoint, it is an excellent career move.

Now let's see how long it takes for Manning to blame him for something.

italian pat patriot · 03-22-2006, 06:37 AM

very well said F.B.N and PatsFanInVa.

i am 100% with you.

and...thks ADAM VINATIERI !

personally for me you will be always a Patriot !

***PATSNUTme*** · 03-22-2006, 06:50 AM

I won't be calling him names like Benedict Adam. Woops, I just did.

If he had signed with any other team,like GB, I'd be OK with it. But, I can't say thanks and wish him luck knowing that the is going ot be a Colt.

Some day when he's gone from the Colts, I will wish him luck and say "Thanks Adam". But not now and not while he's wearing a Colts uniform.

sarge · 03-22-2006, 07:18 AM

Sorry,

If he had signed with any other team I would agree with you.

I'm sure he was fully aware of the reprucusions of what he was doing!

The irony of this is a bit much. I don't care if he would know me walking down the street. It's not like I would have anything to say to him anyway!

Benedict Adam. I love it!

Mainefan · 03-22-2006, 07:25 AM

I'm very pleased to see this thread and heartily agree with its prevailing spirit. AV gave me many thrills, but football is a game and a business and it does not require a pledge of allegiance--either from player or from team.

I'd like to say that I feel the same way about Willie and David as I do about Adam. Best of luck and I hope that you are all very successful, that we can feel a certain pride in your future accomplishments, and that you don't hurt us on the field.

***shmessy*** · 03-22-2006, 07:37 AM

Great thread F.B.N.! Well put. I think the vitriol on this board (and the ESPN.com board-type language and references) are coming mainly from the recent "new market" gained with the alliance with the Sox board.

PatsFanSince74 · 03-22-2006, 07:38 AM

I understand the depth of people's feelings as expressed out here. It's going to be painful for me to see Number Four kicking for Payme and crew. But, it's a business. It isn't personal. The Patriots and Vinatieri made business decisions. We all move on.

Aldogg · 03-22-2006, 08:31 AM

While I agree it was a smart business move for Adam for taking the money and for us for not offering him a huge contract, I admit, when I heard he signed with the Colts, I wanted to throw up in my mouth. As stated, if he signed with GB or some other team except for maybe Oakland, Indy or the Jests, I would be in the group with Givens and Willie, the "Thanks for your service, good luck when your not playing us" group. But, signing with them a-holes in a way makes him our bitter rival now, a team we face at least once, and sometimes twice a year now. Of course there is gonna be vitrol and anger, and of course we are gonna be tempted to put him down, just because he signed with our biggest non division rival. I admit, to me, Adam, despite his good service with his kicks for the last decade, is the enemy now, just because he has the horseshoe on his head. I will not discount what he has done for us, but, going ahead, I hope he misses every clutch kick on the carpet and Pay-me-a-ton calls him out like he did Vanderjerk and his offensive line, just because he is now the enemy, and in position to not even be cheered IMO.