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Old 03-17-2006, 02:22 PM   #11
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...listen folks, I am certain that the Pats will pick up another Wide out or two and that they may draft one as well
Of course they will. They still have Bethel and Bam Bam at #3 and #4. They could sign another #3 type to compete with Caldwell for 2 & 3 or get a bigger name like Keyshawn or Moulds. But I don't think they HAVE TO do the latter.
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Old 03-17-2006, 02:24 PM   #12
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As mentioned on the other thread, Mr. Harrison, Mr. Rodney Harrison got in the Schottenheimer doghouse too
True but that apples to oranges.

It sounds to me as though the Bolts were expecting Caldwell to make the leap to legit starter but, for a variety of reasons, he never could do it. I don't like the references to him not running the proper routes and dropping balls which led to his being in the doghouse. Sounds too much like the teasers we've had 'round these parts during the years.

I'm fine with the addition - presuming it didn't cost the Pats much $, but I sure as heck hope that this kid isn't being penciled in as this teams #2 WR.
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True but that apples to oranges.

It sounds to me as though the Bolts were expecting Caldwell to make the leap to legit starter but, for a variety of reasons, he never could do it. I don't like the references to him not running the proper routes and dropping balls which led to his being in the doghouse. Sounds too much like the teasers we've had 'round these parts during the years.

I'm fine with the addition - presuming it didn't cost the Pats much $, but I sure as heck hope that this kid isn't being penciled in as this teams #2 WR.
1) Caldwell hasn't dropped a ball since the 2003 season.
2) Caldwell earned the starting job out of training camp in 2004. He started the 1st 6 games before tearing his ACL.
3) While they claim that Caldwell ran the wrong route (once) how do we know that is the case? How do we know that Brees didn't throw to the wrong route?
4) Can Caldwell really be blamed for not getting back to the #2 position when he was recovering from his ACL tear. An injury that most people say takes more than a year to fully recover from?
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True but that apples to oranges.
Sort of but it does show that getting into a coach's doghouse can be for no good, legitimate reason.
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Seems to me like he is insurance agianst a poor draft or nobody else in free agency - but I think he sucks. He runs bad or wrong routes, he has dropsies, he gets hurt and he fumbles.

Not impressed.

Lets sign this clown and insult Troy Brown - does not make sense.
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1) Caldwell hasn't dropped a ball since the 2003 season.
2) Caldwell earned the starting job out of training camp in 2004. He started the 1st 6 games before tearing his ACL.
3) While they claim that Caldwell ran the wrong route (once) how do we know that is the case? How do we know that Brees didn't throw to the wrong route?
4) Can Caldwell really be blamed for not getting back to the #2 position when he was recovering from his ACL tear. An injury that most people say takes more than a year to fully recover from?
According to the anaysis provided, Caldwell was placed into Marty's doghouse because he fumbled numerous balls last season

I don't have a clue if Caldwell should be blamed for not getting back to the #2 spot but even if he did, he's done diddley and squat as a #2 WR in this league. What's he getting back too? 22 catches he had in '02? 8 cacthes he had in '03? 18 catches he had in '04? The 28 catches Caldwell had last season was his best as a pro. To put that into perspective, that's 11 less than Troy caught for us last season as a part, part-time player.
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He runs bad or wrong routes, he has dropsies, he gets hurt and he fumbles.
LMAO, you could say the exact same thing about Givens - except his occasional fumbles usually were recovered by us so it didn't matter. He had his share of injuries, ran the wrong route (based on where Brady was throwing) and had less passes completed to him, as a percentage, than Caldwell did.
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Seems to me like he is insurance agianst a poor draft or nobody else in free agency - but I think he sucks. He runs bad or wrong routes, he has dropsies, he gets hurt and he fumbles.

Not impressed.

Lets sign this clown and insult Troy Brown - does not make sense.
If this was the Reche Caldwell of 2003, I'd agree with you. However, you obviously haven't looked at him since then.

No drops in the last 2 years.

Also, EVERYONE fumbles. I don't see people complaining about how often Brady fumbles.

He had 1 catastophic injury. It happens. Its not like he's been injured every year like Chad Pennington.
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1) Caldwell hasn't dropped a ball since the 2003 season.
2) Caldwell earned the starting job out of training camp in 2004. He started the 1st 6 games before tearing his ACL.
3) While they claim that Caldwell ran the wrong route (once) how do we know that is the case? How do we know that Brees didn't throw to the wrong route?
4) Can Caldwell really be blamed for not getting back to the #2 position when he was recovering from his ACL tear. An injury that most people say takes more than a year to fully recover from?
Interesting research info - Thanks !
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If this was the Reche Caldwell of 2003, I'd agree with you. However, you obviously haven't looked at him since then.

No drops in the last 2 years.

Also, EVERYONE fumbles. I don't see people complaining about how often Brady fumbles.

He had 1 catastophic injury. It happens. Its not like he's been injured every year like Chad Pennington.
I will certainly give him a chance - after all we need to replace Michael Stone!!!
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