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Old 02-09-2010, 08:29 PM   #11
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The Jets can't sign him if hes cut because of the "final eight" rule correct? I bet they would trade for him though.
As I understand it they can only if they get rid of a player with the same contract value.
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Old 02-09-2010, 08:29 PM   #12
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The Jets can't sign him if hes cut because of the "final eight" rule correct? I bet they would trade for him though.
No - they cannot sign unrestricted free agents. They can sign waived/released players.
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I would take a lesser pick and ship him off to the Lions, Bucs or Rams.

Anywhere where has no chance to get a ring.
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He's gone. I'd take a fourth round pick.
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I think he has trade value. He came out and said that his issues with BB started in week one, so teams can chalk up his poor play to issues with the coach. I'm sure a lot of coaches think they can get more out of him.

As for his contract, he rips that up at the drop of guaranteed money. He's got $5m coming this year and $6m next, but none is guaranteed and 2011 is up in the air. And he isn't getting any younger. I think a team could restructure the next two years downward by including a modest signing bonus.

I think there are a few teams that may have interest and I could see us getting a fourth or fifth rounder.
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As I understand it they can only if they get rid of a player with the same contract value.
Not if they get rid of a player, but rather if one of their UFAs signs a bigger contract.

Also, they (along with the other Final Eight teams) can't trade for a player they wouldn't be able to sign as a UFA.

[I'm still not sure if they can sign players who are cut by their old teams; as I've said before, the wording is opaque enough that it could go either way. I'll gladly admit I'm wrong when I hear that one of the Final Eight teams signs a cut player they wouldn't normally be able to sign.]
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I would think if Thomas is released the Jets could release Gholston and then pick up thomas.. It would be the smart move.. (if the contracts match up)
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I would think if Thomas is released the Jets could release Gholston and then pick up thomas.. It would be the smart move.. (if the contracts match up)
Again, the Final Eight Plan does not allow the JEST to do this. As a final four team, they can only sign one UFA for each one they lose to another team. Players they cut do not qualify. More importantly, what matters is not what they were being paid, but rather what they get in the new deal.

In any case, Gholston is subject to waivers, so they don't get to sign a replacement UFA if they cut him.
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Which team is dumb enough to pay him 5 million and give up a first day draft pick.
do not say oakland
Why aren't we allowed to say Oakland? We've fleeced... err dealt with them before plenty of times. They probably fleeced us somewhat with the Burgess trade, but we did get that 2011 1st for Seymour. So why not send AD packing to Oakland? It couldn't happen to a nicer guy. *g*

PS 2nd and 3rd round picks are no longer 1st day picks. They are 2nd day picks.
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What's that quote, " "If a player has talent and doesn't succeed, that means that they either don't want to be successful or I have failed as a coach."?

What the hell happened here?
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