Esiason on D&C: Jets roster has surpassed Pats - Page 5 - New England Patriots Forums

upstater1 · 01-25-2010, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SanAngeloState

Well Esiason said it to start with, is he a troll?

And I said that Brady was NOT inferior to Sanchez or Sanchize however you like to spell it.

Well, he is a Jet.

Just like Marshall Faulk, Sharpe and a host of others can't seem to be objective about the Patriots.

upstater1 · 01-25-2010, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by D-Money

They still had the number 1 defense at the end of the day.They are more creative then our team on the defensive side of the ball.

Errrr, no.

You're equating aggression with creativity.

upstater1 · 01-25-2010, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SanAngeloState

Schottenhemier vs. our guy (whoever that is or supposedly is)?

Waht do you think? Versatile offense that exploits weaknesses vs. Maroney off tackle, overthrow to Moss, Welker for the 8 yards, punt on 4th and 2?

Or Maroney off tackle, Faulk draw for 3, faulk draw for 3, punt.

I mean, to me, it's a no brainer. We could pull plays out of a hat and have more success.

Well, I agree here, but you're talking apples and oranges. This was O'Brien's first time calling plays. He needs to improve. I would have preferred bringing Weis back, but now that he's coming back, and now that the offense is already installed, we just need better players, and then we can judge him.

The Jets are versatile? How so? Because they run and pass? I consider the Jets a very limited offense, and if you look at the stats, the Patriots' O runs circles around them.

D-Money · 01-25-2010, 03:07 PM

Take the pom poms off!I rather have the jets defense over ours right now

***Rob0729*** · 01-25-2010, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by upstater1

Well, I agree here, but you're talking apples and oranges. This was O'Brien's first time calling plays. He needs to improve. I would have preferred bringing Weis back, but now that he's coming back, and now that the offense is already installed, we just need better players, and then we can judge him.

The Jets are versatile? How so? Because they run and pass? I consider the Jets a very limited offense, and if you look at the stats, the Patriots' O runs circles around them.

It took Schottenheimer the entire season to realize he had a great running game and allowing Sanchez to throw the ball more than 20 times a game means more turnovers. I think Bill O'Brien would have been smart enough to realize that far sooner.

emoney_33 · 01-25-2010, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by D-Money

Take the pom poms off!I rather have the jets defense over ours right now

I'd rather ours for the longterm, the one led by BB.

D-Money · 01-25-2010, 03:13 PM

Hey emoney, BB didnt exactly have a great year coaching.He maded some questionable decisions.

upstater1 · 01-25-2010, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SanAngeloState

Some of this is ridiculous. Yes, of course the Jets are iffy, rookie QB and all.

But Shonn Greene vs. Maroney?

I liked Greene at Iowa and Maroney has not produced as hoped, but still we're talking a first year guy running behind a line built for running. Thomas Jones was let go a few times, and he became a stud behind that line. Reminds me of the Broncos line. Greene is a powerful runner, but he can only run straight ahead. On any move to the outside, his 4.7 40 speed doesn't cut it. I'd call him a useful back on the order of a younger Sammy Morris, but not anything more than that. No, I do not count Shonn Greene as a plus in this weigh in. I may prefer him to Maroney, but not to the pre-fumble Maroney who was running hard and running people over. Unfortunately, that Maroney was a rare thing.

Revis vs. Bodden?

Faneca vs. Mankins? OK, that's close

I take Mankins over the guy longer in the tooth than our Neal.

Light vs. Ferguson?? Well??

Light, outside of his injury, played really well this year (except against the Ravens). Honestly, I can't judge Ferguson. I thought he was a questionable pick coming out of college, and I haven't kept up. He may very well be better than Light especially because Light is getting on in age. Heck, we might want to compare Ferguson to Vollmer instead. Who would you prefer?

How about Harris vs. the wrecked knee (hopefully he comes back) Mayo?

I take last year's Mayo over this year's Harris. An MCL tear is not a wrecked knee. It's not an ACL.

Cotchery vs. Aiken?

I mean no offense, but come on...you can still be a Pats fan if you admit that they are better at a few positions.

Cotchery versus Aiken? What about Welker, Moss and Edelman?

I take the Patriots' WR core over the Jets core anyday.