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Re: Tom Curran last night on Sports Tonight
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Originally Posted by Warren94
did we supposedly have a shot at Champ Bailey? when and who?
After the 03 season there was some scuttle of the Pats unloading Law b/c he was squawking and using that cap room to swap him and get Bailey. No idea if BB and at the time, Joe Gibbs talked. Obviously Gibbs dealt him to Denver instead.
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I do believe that many owners will spend less in 2010. There is no salary minimum. Uncertainly about 2011 will reduce the number of long-term contracts. They will not pay for many benefits to current players such as pension and 401K's.
That being said, Kraft is in better shaps than most. First, TV money will still be paid. Kraft has many sources of income other than direct monies from the team. He also will not have to pay revenue sharing monies to other teams.
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WITH REGARD TO MOSS
Curran is just speculating. Why shouldn't he do so? There isn't much else to do with reagrd to the patriots at the moment.
In the end, the question may be whether to pay Moss $6M or pay another receiver $6M as part of a deal that is part of a longer term deal, with contingencies for a 2011 lockout or strike.
For me, the question is whether Moss is part of the 2011-2014 patriots.
Not gonna happen.
Moss reminds me a lot of the Dillon situation. We extended him on the heels of a SB season for the ages. Then he was done. Bill and much of the fanbase wasn't sure at first he might not yet rebound from injury, but Maroney was signed in year two of his extension because he didn't. After another season where he functioned again at a very different level than in his first SB season, they cut him even though it meant taking a nearly $6M cap hit spread over 2007-08. They then went in another whole direction trading for Welker, signing Stallworth and on draft day trading for Moss. Dillon was gone before they knew they could land Moss. They apparently felt that Welker, Caldwell and Stallworth was going to be a sufficient approach with Morris and Maroney hopefully back at full health. We will never know if that would have worked since Moss essentially replaced Caldwell and Gaffney essentially replaced Stallworth mid season. 2008 results were skewed because Brady went down. 2009 results were mixed at best but also skewed slightly since Welker missed 2 games early and was lost in week 17, Gaffney wasn't retained and 2 potential veteran replacements washed out and that left an offense trying to operate with 1 deep threat shut down by double coverage or tough defenses, 2 conversion from QB projects, and 2 career ST'ers. Since you can't predict injuries or performance as players age or rehab from injury, I think they need to spread the risk by locating, signing, developing 2-3 viable options to complement Edleman, possibly Tate and hopefully Welker. They need to upgrade the OL but also adapt the passing game to one it can block for consistently.
What's not going to happen? trading Moss or extending him?
I would be fine if Belichick chose to extend Moss.
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Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks
Not gonna happen.
Moss reminds me a lot of the Dillon situation. We extended him on the heels of a SB season for the ages. Then he was done. Bill and much of the fanbase wasn't sure at first he might not yet rebound from injury, but Maroney was signed in year two of his extension because he didn't. After another season where he functioned again at a very different level than in his first SB season, they cut him even though it meant taking a nearly $6M cap hit spread over 2007-08. They then went in another whole direction trading for Welker, signing Stallworth and on draft day trading for Moss. Dillon was gone before they knew they could land Moss. They apparently felt that Welker, Caldwell and Stallworth was going to be a sufficient approach with Morris and Maroney hopefully back at full health. We will never know if that would have worked since Moss essentially replaced Caldwell and Gaffney essentially replaced Stallworth mid season. 2008 results were skewed because Brady went down. 2009 results were mixed at best but also skewed slightly since Welker missed 2 games early and was lost in week 17, Gaffney wasn't retained and 2 potential veteran replacements washed out and that left
What's not going to happen? trading Moss or extending him?
I would be fine if Belichick chose to extend Moss.
I hit submit accidentally...
But it was extend. Not gonna happen. Not sure he will be back, although if Bill hasn't figured it out yet that's on him...the ROI just isn't there when the HC and QB and other team leaders including two guys who would have been better suited to the second captaincy on the team have to expend extra energy and effort and focus on keeping him involved and engaged... This OL can't front what everyone here wants this offense to be simply by adding another deep threat unless at minimum that other deep threat is seriously competitive with Moss for attempts and he consistently catches more than 59% of the throws he's targeted for and that guy will want the same comp and consideration as Moss and that ain't gonna fly...
Plus Moss received his extension after the 07 season. Not like the guy took his coin and either broke down or shut it down.
Dillon took his coin after the 2004 season...He put up Moss like #'s as a RB that season. Then it was gone... He was decent thereafter, ditto Moss although his dropoff is certainly related to but also perhaps overly credited to Cassel. This year was a little better, but it wasn't nearly enough - and that was with Brady. Some here would prefer to overly credit that to Brady this season. I just don't see it that way...based on years of watching Brady deal with all manner of obstacles.
But it was extend. Not gonna happen. Not sure he will be back, although if Bill hasn't figured it out yet that's on him...the ROI just isn't there when the HC and QB and other team leaders including two guys who would have been better suited to the second captaincy on the team have to expend extra energy and effort and focus on keeping him involved and engaged...
:sigh: The "better suited" captains voted Moss as captain. The only "energy" wasted was the energy of having to answer the idiotic media's questions and persistent badgering of Moss. Moss WILL be extended.
Re: Tom Curran last night on Sports Tonight
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