Joey Galloway - New England Patriots Forums

***Patjew*** · 01-19-2010, 11:17 PM

This is probably a stupid question, but whatevah.

With all of the (legitimate) moaning about the thin ranks of the Pats WR this year, especially playing 5 and 6 guys like Aiken at the 3 and 4 spots, why couldn't they just have Galloway line up wide every play and sprint down the field? Maybe do a double move now and then or run an in-cut, but basically just keep it really simple for the guy, let him use his speed, and allow Brady to know where he'd be every play so there'd be none of the "getting on the same page" stuff. I mean, if the guy can out-run every CB in the league, why not let him do his thing and occasionally draw a safety down the field and toss one up to him now and then?

Unless he was a total dick in the locker room or he really lost his burst, I don't get why they would not try to work with him to his strengths, especially when there was no Gaffney or Stallworth sitting around waiting to play. It feels like they gave up on him too early.

***Joker*** · 01-19-2010, 11:21 PM

went to a few home games early, PJ...he flat out couldn't outrun anybody flat out..that's why he's flat out of the league and his league pic lies flat on its back out in the dumpster behind the NFL offices...located in Flatbush

***Patjew*** · 01-19-2010, 11:59 PM

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went to a few home games early, PJ...he flat out couldn't outrun anybody flat out..that's why he's flat out of the league and his league pic lies flat on its back out in the dumpster behind the NFL offices...located in Flatbush

Well, if the issue was Kate Hudsonesque flatness, then I can better understand it.

upstater1 · 01-20-2010, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Patjew

This is probably a stupid question, but whatevah.

With all of the (legitimate) moaning about the thin ranks of the Pats WR this year, especially playing 5 and 6 guys like Aiken at the 3 and 4 spots, why couldn't they just have Galloway line up wide every play and sprint down the field? Maybe do a double move now and then or run an in-cut, but basically just keep it really simple for the guy, let him use his speed, and allow Brady to know where he'd be every play so there'd be none of the "getting on the same page" stuff. I mean, if the guy can out-run every CB in the league, why not let him do his thing and occasionally draw a safety down the field and toss one up to him now and then?

Unless he was a total dick in the locker room or he really lost his burst, I don't get why they would not try to work with him to his strengths, especially when there was no Gaffney or Stallworth sitting around waiting to play. It feels like they gave up on him too early.

One wonders if a 38 year old former Pro Bowler would be happy to sprint all out every play as a decoy.

***MassPats38*** · 01-20-2010, 12:14 AM

I am guessing the defenses weren't buying his deep threat ability based on his attempts at catches on shorter routes. Even if he had the speed, he still has to hold on to the ball when it's thrown to him. He looked like Featherstone from Necessary Roughness.

***Patjew*** · 01-20-2010, 12:16 AM

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One wonders if a 38 year old former Pro Bowler would be happy to sprint all out every play as a decoy.

Probably not, but maybe he would have preferred that to being cut. You could toss it to him if he got open, obviously.

The cut was made by people who know alot more about this than I do, but it's always seemed strange to me.

Patspsycho · 01-20-2010, 01:06 AM

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Probably not, but maybe he would have preferred that to being cut. You could toss it to him if he got open, obviously.

The cut was made by people who know alot more about this than I do, but it's always seemed strange to me.

It's not just about what happens on the routes after the snap, but equally as important what happens before it and where you line up and in what formation, or slot. You are in trouble if a rookie has to tell you where to line up (Edelman).

Also, in our offense, the routes are complimentary to one another and frequently are timed routes (to take advantage of Brady's precision, which is a story for another time). Galloway disrupted quite a few of them by being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Also you can't be taken seriously as a threat if you are a one-trick pony, you've got to mix it up sometimes, go long then go short every now and then. Problem is Galloway is one old dog who couldn't learn new tricks, particularly going across the middle, or on slant routes. He couldn't even tell man from zone which is particularly troublesome because routes change based on coverage recognition. Remember how Aiken had trouble with that (was that in Denver?).

A long time ago I wrote a very long post on why Galloway couldn't buy into our system. I can't even begin to try to find where it is now.

***Joker*** · 01-20-2010, 01:14 AM

A long time ago I wrote a very long post on why Galloway couldn't buy into our system. I can't even begin to try to find where it is now.

yes...he's moved on..to that big Milky Galloway in the sky...

IronSheik · 01-20-2010, 01:44 AM

I wonder why the Pats didn't sign a guy like David Patten after they cut Galloway. Patten in 07 had over 50 Rec for 800 yards and ended up as the Saints 2nd WR. In 08 he only played 5 games but that was due more to the fact that the Saints wanted to play there younger WR's like Meachem and Moore at the #3 and #4 WR spots last season.

***Patjew*** · 01-20-2010, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Patspsycho

It's not just about what happens on the routes after the snap, but equally as important what happens before it and where you line up and in what formation, or slot. You are in trouble if a rookie has to tell you where to line up (Edelman).

Also, in our offense, the routes are complimentary to one another and frequently are timed routes (to take advantage of Brady's precision, which is a story for another time). Galloway disrupted quite a few of them by being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Also you can't be taken seriously as a threat if you are a one-trick pony, you've got to mix it up sometimes, go long then go short every now and then. Problem is Galloway is one old dog who couldn't learn new tricks, particularly going across the middle, or on slant routes. He couldn't even tell man from zone which is particularly troublesome because routes change based on coverage recognition. Remember how Aiken had trouble with that (was that in Denver?).

A long time ago I wrote a very long post on why Galloway couldn't buy into our system. I can't even begin to try to find where it is now.

Thanks. That all makes sense and now I understand it more.