mgteich

Brady may not extend if he can't get a promise of upgrades at WR, the OL and in schemes. His body likely won't last past another year with what we have now, so what is the point of extending, other than to collect a higher 2010 paycheck? Brady has his turn at leverage now.

emoney_33

Uhh there is not a single indication that Brady will be leaving the Patriots anytime soon. It's more of your projection on how you think Brady should feel/operate. Plus there's no doubt that they will be working to fix the WR depth.

rsd

Please add "100% Pure Conjecture" to the title

mgteich

No, there is no indication that Brady will not accept being beat up for another 3-5 years. There is also evidence that Brady would actually use the leverage that he has at the time of extension. Perhaps his agents will simply not require anything but a discounted contract and no assurances. And then again, it might snow during Training Camp.

Deus Irae

Perhaps if Brady doesn't want to get hit he'll just start throwing the ball as quickly as most other quarterbacks do instead of holding it forever in order to wait for longer routes to open up? That would mean more focus on shorter routes, but it's not as if that would be a bad thing: it's how the team won earlier in the decade.

If nothing else, it would get people to stop blaming the offensive line for poor pass protection when that's not always the case.

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emoney_33

I wonder how Welker can get 123 catches (while missing 3 games) when Brady refuses to look for the shorter routes.

mgteich

This takes an inclination to favor the short game, an OC who calls those schemes and plays, and more than two WR's.

BradyManny

Come on, Deus. First off, most of the routes the Patriots run are slower-developing ones - we don't run the quick stuff like the Colts do, slants, quick outs and all that. We run a lot of crossing, a lot of deep, a lot of vertical routes. Second, did you watch the Ravens game on Saturday? Manning had infinitely more time to throw than Brady did, against the same D-Line. Our O-Line has been having trouble against 4 man rushes for quite some time now. And it starts in the middle with Koppen.

When we run quick stuff, it's almost always screens. If you have an issue with the type of plays we call and routes we run, then you should direct that at BB, BOB, and yes, even Brady, but as an offensive mind who contributes to the scheme of this offense, not Brady the quarterback.

Deus Irae

No, it doesn't. It merely takes a QB who doesn't hold onto the ball in order to clear throwing lanes, especially on slow developing plays. This became a "bad thing" the moment people started pretending that Maverick wasn't insane. Sadly, that insanity is now spreading throughout the message board and infecting previous normal posters. What was once considered to be one of Brady's best assets has been turned into a liability by posters here pushing an agenda.

Brady doesn't generally get hit as a result of the line not holding. The sack numbers are pretty conclusive in demonstrating that. Brady gets hit because his style as a QB is to hold onto the ball until the routes clear. The Patriots call plays based upon the strengths and weaknesses of the personnel, after all.

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mgteich

Doesn't this include calling plays where Brady is most likely to succeed?