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Injured Mayo wouldn't, but Mayo didn't start the year injured and we can't use injuries to compare talent, injuries are circumstantial.
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CJ Spiller is my binky, but he may be gone long before our pick.
seriously, CJ spiller won't do squat with the line we have. The pats have to revamp their entire oline except for VOllmer. That's the number 1 priority.
the jets are a far more talented team than we are on both sides of the ball. they are young and will get better over the next 4-5 years. the pats have a long way to go to acquire that kind of talent. of course, it helps if you draft in the top 10 every year, but that's the way it is. i don't see the pats winning this division for a while.
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"He’s the greatest quarterback to ever play the game. He goes from being a rookie that nobody is expecting anything from, to taking over with people saying he can’t do it, to winning three Super Bowls....It should already be obvious he’s the greatest quarterback to ever have played. "
- Steelers S Troy Polamalu on Tom Brady
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I'm telling you that neither Sanders nor McGowan would be starters. Mayo of 2009 didn't have a prayer of starting for the 2009 Jets. I listed Warren as a starter. Thomas of 2009 wouldn't have had a prayer of starting for the 2009 Jets. TBC wouldn't have started over any member of the Jets, at any position, and Bodden would have been the nickel, if he could handle the position.
Let me ask of you this, flip the script. How many Jets players would start on our defense? Revis, Harris or Scott, and Pace and Shuan Ellis. If I counted correctly that makes a max of 5 out of 11 and thats with benching Mayo. Your an Idiot if you think that Bodden isnt better than Dwight Lowery or Strickland. Its scheme, not overall superior talent.
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seriously, CJ spiller won't do squat with the line we have. The pats have to revamp their entire oline except for VOllmer. That's the number 1 priority.
the jets are a far more talented team than we are on both sides of the ball. they are young and will get better over the next 4-5 years. the pats have a long way to go to acquire that kind of talent. of course, it helps if you draft in the top 10 every year, but that's the way it is. i don't see the pats winning this division for a while.
You get one Stallworth type of wideout, throw them on this team and make no other changes and the team gets 12-14 wins.
This team is nowhere close to being "far away" from the Jets in talent. The Jets fought to 9-7 with 2 teams laying down at the end of the year. The Jets may have a better overall defense than us but they are far far far from more talented on offense.
seriously, CJ spiller won't do squat with the line we have. The pats have to revamp their entire oline except for VOllmer. That's the number 1 priority.
the jets are a far more talented team than we are on both sides of the ball. they are young and will get better over the next 4-5 years. the pats have a long way to go to acquire that kind of talent. of course, it helps if you draft in the top 10 every year, but that's the way it is. i don't see the pats winning this division for a while.
I can't disagree with anything you've said, except not winning the division for a while, as long as Brady is Brady (or 3/4 Brady as he was this year) and Belichick is still coaching this team, I would say we have at least an outside chance to win the Division again next year.
Are we going to spend the entire off-season trading in these "leadership, chemistry, identity" vague and intangible sports myths? We just went through a 16 game seasons worth of results where the Patriots had a greater points differential than their opponents, greater yardage differential than their opponents and better overall record than the Jets did.
All games are subject to outliers and unexpected results. The smaller sample size of data the greater likelihood that it can be anomolous. I mean, what is the probability that a team could play 2 games against 2 different opponents in 2 weeks and have both teams go 0 for 5 in FG attempts? It's extraordinarily unlikely. Than you factor that the results of those two games is victories by a combined number of points less than the sum total if those 5 FG's had been made.
That's just the playoffs. In a one game elimination format luck will factor in at some point. Sometimes it's not hugely significant, sometimes it's enormously so. I know that it's common to try to identify that with some sort of "quality", but that is pretty unproven and unfounded.
The Jets have spent the last few seasons building a win now team. They've spent heavily in Free Agency, they've traded picks to move up or acquire veterans, they've opened a window to try to win it all. And with that, 2 years in a row they've now been a game over .500 and have narrowly won 2 playoff games w/ bounces attached. Let's not make more of it than that.
^ I agree with that guy's comment.
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You get one Stallworth type of wideout, throw them on this team and make no other changes and the team gets 12-14 wins.
This team is nowhere close to being "far away" from the Jets in talent. The Jets fought to 9-7 with 2 teams laying down at the end of the year. The Jets may have a better overall defense than us but they are far far far from more talented on offense.
Spiller is a jack of all trades. Good in open space, a battering ram, and a +YAC wideout.
I think the only lesson to be learned from the Jets is one we already knew - it takes a good team, getting hot at the right moment and having some breaks go your way (such as playing TWO teams resting their players to end your season) to make it far in the playoffs. The Pats just didn't have it this year. Maybe they will next year.
Spiller is a jack of all trades. Good in open space, a battering ram, and a +YAC wideout.
Yea I was commenting on the ridiculous comment that our entire OL was trash and needed revamping as well as the jets having a far more talented team than us.
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