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View Poll Results: Who was the cause of the end of the dynasty
Reche Caldwell 9 7.44%
David Tyree 45 37.19%
John Tommase 5 4.13%
Bernard Pollard 9 7.44%
Belichick's personal decisions 35 28.93%
The loss of Scott Pioli 1 0.83%
Too much of being like the Colts 12 9.92%
The loss of Josh Mcdaniels 4 3.31%
Patriot Place 0 0%
Arlen Spector... 1 0.83%
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Old 01-12-2010, 06:50 AM   #1
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Default What person was the reason for us not winning another Super Bowl in this decade??

The 2000 championship run is over.. the last 3 years have been really crappy way to end the football season.. 2005, they just ran out of gas, but from 06-09 this team has ended the football season leaving us with a bitter taste in our mouths..

06- the fall against the colts
07 sb 42 and the whole spygate thing
08 - the year without brady, and the year with out a 11-5 playoffs
09 - failure to show up in jan for a home playoff game..

Did i expect this team to win the SB, No ,but I did expect them to show up and compete... So I will pose this poll to the fans out there, who has been the biggest reason or cause of the 2000's to end with out 1 more super bowl win..

I changed the title for the simple reason, Im not whining or complaining this team had a lot of opportunites the last 3 years to win 2 super bowls.. The team will be competive along with Belichick and Brady, but alot of people have to be naive to think that alot of changes need to be made to take advantage of Tom Brady in his prime...
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Old 01-12-2010, 07:05 AM   #2
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I think the Patriots went away from being a defensively minded team to focusing on offense and hasn't been the same since.
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I like where you're going with this, Sean, because it probably is time for all of us to start realizing we're not the 2003/2004 powerhouse anymore...

Starting with the 2006 AFC Championship Game vs. the Colts, the varnish has been coming off. The 16-0 2007 season only lulled into a sense of false security and delayed what was coming.

Incidentally, I wuold still say if the 2004 Patriots played the 2007 Patriots, the 2004 team would win, because they were tougher and more gritty.

All that said, we should also accept that this just happens.

You cannot be great forever.

Every so-called "dynastic" team hits the skids and then, hopefully, rebuilds for another era of greatness.

The 60's Packers; the 70's Steelers, Dolphins & Cowboys; the 80's Niners & Raiders; the 90's Cowboys & Bills, the 2000's Patriots....all had their moments in the sun and all had to hit a rebuilding period. It will happen to the 2000's Colts, too. It just doesn't last forever. It can't!

Hopefully, we'll still get a decent team while we rebuild and not have to fall back into the ranks of the 4-12, 5-11 teams again. (This is something I DO NOT see happening with Brady on the team, btw).

Tough season. It's over. I think this will be one of the more interesting offseasons in recent memory, so we've got that to look forward to. Uncapped year coming with a LOT of holes to fill and garbage to take out (Get your bags packed Adalius Thomas & Laurence Maroney).
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I stipulate the end of the decade. Not quite there on the dynasty. Talk to me a year from now.
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I don't BUY your premise or your poll...Frankly all I have to say is BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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End of the dynasty? We've made the playoffs for the last 10 seasons except for 2 seasons where we lost out on the last day of the season to tie breakers, one of those with a back-up QB. End of the dynasty is when we go 5-11 two seasons in a row and BB and Brady retire. I'll believe it when I see it.
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End of the dynasty? We've made the playoffs for the last 10 seasons except for 2 seasons where we lost out on the last day of the season to tie breakers, one of those with a back-up QB. End of the dynasty is when we go 5-11 two seasons in a row and BB and Brady retire. I'll believe it when I see it.


Last time we went 5-11 was 2000, and posters are now saying it's all over. This despite a young, rookie defense that managed a top-five ranking despite non-existent pass-rushing.

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dynasties need to end so new ones can begin

the pats are in a good spot to continue to a playoff caliber team for a very long time. with or without brady
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Lets rephrase, there was opportunites, to win 2 more super bowls in the past decade, which was failed to do.... The Pats have one of the best QB's ever, a great Wr, and the best HC.. Maybee I should have said was the cause for not reaching potential the past 3 years... Ive been around for some bad teams, but its frustrating when they could have won more...
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Last time we went 5-11 was 2000, and posters are now saying it's all over. This despite a young, rookie defense that managed a top-five ranking despite non-existent pass-rushing.


As Belichick said , "Stats are for losers"...
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