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Old 01-08-2010, 02:13 PM   #11
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I'm so sorry.

I FULLY agree with Bostonian1962 points about the health of the personnel.

Can you help me out here, Sicilian, and tell me where I wrote that his post was "out of line", "homerism" or "rose-colored glasses".
Sorry, I quoted you because you were the last comment when I started typing, but it was directed more at the crowd in general.

We're going into the playoffs, a one and done scenario, and focusing on the negatives just makes the whole thing sound pointless.

But my post was snippier than I intended, I apologize for that. Long day.
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Old 01-08-2010, 02:44 PM   #12
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Here's some cold water:

Sit back, imagine we have a lead in the second half.

(whispering) Now remember our defensive coordinator is Dean Pees and the offensive coordinator is Bill O'Brien and they have their hands around thier necks.
Personnel is not the reason the Patriots are not 15-1 this year. The only game this team lost on the field this year was New Orleans. The rest were botched lobotomies.
Didn't Pees almost die last week from choking himself too hard?
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Revised Balance Rankings

Packers: 5.4
Patriots: 5.85
Ravens: 6.35
Vikings: 6.4
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Chargers: 7.65
Cowboys: 7.8
Jets: 8.2
Colts: 8.3
Saints: 9.05
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Eagles: 10.35
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Cardinals: 12.6
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Bengals: 14.7

Quick take: Unsurprisingly, 9 of the 12 playoff teams on average rank top-10, with the Eagles coming very close. The remaining two teams are very far apart, but share a big similarity. The Cardinals are balanced, but only average to above-average on both sides of the ball. The Bengals, on the other hand, are very unbalanced, riding a strong defense to the postseason. Those two teams are similar, though, in that they are both projected to be 1+ win overachievers using the net points statistic. And, both go up against teams whose records do not reflect the true quality of the team, again via the net points statistic. The Packers and Patriots might just be the quiet juggernauts in the postseason. We'll have to see how this translates to the field, though.

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Thanks for the statistical analysis. But how do you account for the dropoff from Welker to Edelman?

OP makes a very good point how the starters on this team are for the most part healthy and ready to go. Welker's loss may be felt, but there is opportunity for the other starters to step up. Is Edelman up to the task?
Can Brady get the other pass catchers more involved in the offense?

Much as I loved the combo of Moss/Welker I felt at times that Brady zeroed in too much on Welker on 3rd downs. Hard to blame him cos Welker is so good, but still I think that made our offense somewhat predictable on 3rd downs. And maybe defenses were accounting for Welker by the second half?

The defense has been Jekyll and Hyde. There were some games where the secondary shined and you could see all the potential talent lurking in guys like Butler, Chung, Meriweather, etc. And there were other games where assignments were completely botched. If the defense can just play up to its talent level and if some creative schemes are used to manufacture pressure, I think we could be in for a surprise come the playoffs.

The talent is there, let's see them put together consistent 60 minute efforts. And I'm talking about all the units of the team here, not just the defense.
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Your point about the O-Line is something that I feel is flying underneath the radar. A Light, Mankins, Koppen, Neal, Vollmer unit has played one full game together this year (Jax), and unsurprisingly, it was easily our most balanced offensive game (throwing the Titans game out). There is no weak link on this line, and all 5 either have been to the Pro Bowl or have Pro Bowl level talent. Vollmer maybe the most talented, and the other 4 have substantial postseason experience together. A dominant performance, which they are capable of, could bring the Pats farther than many believe.
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Didn't Pees almost die last week from choking himself too hard?
Very poor taste.
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Thanks for the statistical analysis. But how do you account for the dropoff from Welker to Edelman?

OP makes a very good point how the starters on this team are for the most part healthy and ready to go. Welker's loss may be felt, but there is opportunity for the other starters to step up. Is Edelman up to the task?
Can Brady get the other pass catchers more involved in the offense?

Much as I loved the combo of Moss/Welker I felt at times that Brady zeroed in too much on Welker on 3rd downs. Hard to blame him cos Welker is so good, but still I think that made our offense somewhat predictable on 3rd downs. And maybe defenses were accounting for Welker by the second half?

The defense has been Jekyll and Hyde. There were some games where the secondary shined and you could see all the potential talent lurking in guys like Butler, Chung, Meriweather, etc. And there were other games where assignments were completely botched. If the defense can just play up to its talent level and if some creative schemes are used to manufacture pressure, I think we could be in for a surprise come the playoffs.

The talent is there, let's see them put together consistent 60 minute efforts. And I'm talking about all the units of the team here, not just the defense.
W/O Welker you need to throw everything out the window- or most of it at least. Even some of the defensive statistics. D players potentiall getting less rest due to more stalled drives, opponent's score and field position dictating different coverages, playcalling....

It's whole new season. Lots of unkowns now..

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Very poor taste.
He checked out fine. We can joke about it.
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He checked out fine. We can joke about it.
Of course you can. It's still in poor taste, and also factually incorrect as the defensive collapse occurred AFTER he left.
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i think they can get by the ravens, but as far as beating the colts, or san diego. even with welker, i don't think they could have made it to the super bowl

this D is just to weak vs the pass and it would take 3 amazing games from brady and moss to get to the SB and that's not going to happen


no one is going to let moss beat them they will put 2 and 3 guys on him at all time's and brady is not taking with the D is giveing him everything is a ugly deep ball from him


they should beat the ravens but after that i think they are done and it go's beyond welker, it started in the offseason when they traded seymour and then did not draft any pass rushers in the draft
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