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I'm still being pessimistic (just to save on the disappoinment if he doesn't come back, I've always assumed the worse since Neely) but with Rodney I figure the first regular season home game might be his goal.
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“The only two things you can control are your effort and your attitude. So that’s what I’m working on.” Rodney Harrison.
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They say what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Well, Pats fans should be invincible by now. [Fitzy, 16 November 2009]
“The only two things you can control are your effort and your attitude. So that’s what I’m working on.” Rodney Harrison.
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This article and related one "Bettis, Cowher earn respect" just made my day!!! After several days of nothing reported on the Pats, to get two in-depth reports from (gasp) Felger, made this dreary, cold, post season, pre super bowl day, a little brighter. The quotes of mutual respect between Harrison and Steelers(Cowher,Bettis,Faneca), made me think there is a glimmer of hope for Harrison in the HOF! Yea Baby!!!!
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Man, does the 2005 season not serve to show us how good we had it in 2003 and 2004? Rodney Harrison was so vital to both of those Superbowl seasons. His presence was sorely missed, even late in the season where the defense began to turn it around. Rodney Harrison had become as much a part of the 'heart' and 'spirit' of Patriots football as anybody. From my perspective he made the 'underdog' role a reality to everyone in that locker room even when it wasn't a reality outside of those doors. The whole team played with a tremendous chip on their collective shoulders while Rodney was back there. I think that after he went out some of that left with him. Over the final weeks we did seem to get some or most of that back, but the uncharacteristic crumbling that happened (nevermind those friggin' refs) in Denver may have been a little different had Rodney been in the lineup. I can't help but think so.
First it was the refs. Now it's Harrison that would have stopped the OFFENSE and the RETURNERS from making turnovers. Maybe "smug" isn't the right word. However, IMHO, the Management and players are much more realistic that posters, at least I hope that they are.
The DEFENSE did not lose the game. In fact, they played very well, as they did throughout the last half of the season. Blame who you want for the key interception, Brady, the OL, the receiver. Blame who you want for Faulk's fumble. Blame who you want for the two giveaways by the returners. But the fault was not the lack of Harrison. Many, many team leaders were in attendance for the game.
Please, please understand that we LOST the game. You can believe that it always about us. I guess that's fine. At least, we can work to imporve what needs to be improved. Or perhaps as Belichick and Brady, we could credit the opposition AND point out that we should ahve played much better.
I thought maybe I was over the top until I read the post again. Brady and Brown and McGinist and Vrabel and Bruschi are leaders of the team, plus Izzo and Fauria and lots of others. To suggest that the team lacked leadership and heart because Harrison was not out on the field is just so much bunk.
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We need Harrison back, we want Harrison back. There is a big whole at SS. Wilson has not taken on the leadership role in the secondary. We need a leader of the secondary. This is all true. But none of this had anything to do with debacle at Mile High.
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Originally Posted by Brownfan80
Man, does the 2005 season not serve to show us how good we had it in 2003 and 2004? Rodney Harrison was so vital to both of those Superbowl seasons. His presence was sorely missed, even late in the season where the defense began to turn it around. Rodney Harrison had become as much a part of the 'heart' and 'spirit' of Patriots football as anybody. From my perspective he made the 'underdog' role a reality to everyone in that locker room even when it wasn't a reality outside of those doors. The whole team played with a tremendous chip on their collective shoulders while Rodney was back there. I think that after he went out some of that left with him. Over the final weeks we did seem to get some or most of that back, but the uncharacteristic crumbling that happened (nevermind those friggin' refs) in Denver may have been a little different had Rodney been in the lineup. I can't help but think so.
Disagree if you'd like, but if you'd read any of my posts after the game, you'd know that I don't 'blame' the refs, but they contributed.
And I don't think that Harrison being there would have magically changed the game. But I do know that Harrison makes plays. And we were one or two 'big plays in our favor' from still winning that game.
Call it 'blind optimism' if you'd like (which is funny that anyone would direct a sentiment like that at me, a notoriously negative poster), but I think that even with our turnovers and even with the refs, we were still very much in that game.
If we'd had a few big plays, which Harrison had in just about every playoff game he'd ever played in a Pats uniform, then I think we'd have come out on top. Sue me.
I know we lost, I'm not a moron, I just think that Harrison's impact has been understated and that his return will be huge (barring setback in his rehab).
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First it was the refs. Now it's Harrison that would have stopped the OFFENSE and the RETURNERS from making turnovers. Maybe "smug" isn't the right word. However, IMHO, the Management and players are much more realistic that posters, at least I hope that they are.
The DEFENSE did not lose the game. In fact, they played very well, as they did throughout the last half of the season. Blame who you want for the key interception, Brady, the OL, the receiver. Blame who you want for Faulk's fumble. Blame who you want for the two giveaways by the returners. But the fault was not the lack of Harrison. Many, many team leaders were in attendance for the game.
Please, please understand that we LOST the game. You can believe that it always about us. I guess that's fine. At least, we can work to imporve what needs to be improved. Or perhaps as Belichick and Brady, we could credit the opposition AND point out that we should ahve played much better.
I thought maybe I was over the top until I read the post again. Brady and Brown and McGinist and Vrabel and Bruschi are leaders of the team, plus Izzo and Fauria and lots of others. To suggest that the team lacked leadership and heart because Harrison was not out on the field is just so much bunk.
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We need Harrison back, we want Harrison back. There is a big whole at SS. Wilson has not taken on the leadership role in the secondary. We need a leader of the secondary. This is all true. But none of this had anything to do with debacle at Mile High.
I think if we want to understand the BB offseason, we need to recognize that BB considers each seasons team entirely different than the last.
There tends to be a lot of talk about 'the missing piece' or we need this or that. While those conversations are probably insightful about the 2005 Patriots, they may not apply to the 2006 Patriots.
I didnt look it up, but I would imagine we have somewhere in the vicinity of 35-40 players that will be back next year.
The BB outlook is that we need 13-18 new players, and AS A GROUP they get added to whats here to form a team.
That may include Rodney and may not, we dont know yet. But to attribute team level attributes to a single player is very off base IMO
I read that also, if anyone can come back from that injury it will be Rodney.
he has not adopted the attitude that it's a business. altho he has cause to feel so after the san diego stupidity, he doens't.
IMO rodney wants to come back, not only because his pride can't abide with his career ending this way, but because it's FUN for him. he wants to be out there, talking trash and delivering questionable hits, intimidating WRs whose patterns call for them to go inside, the whole deal.
IMO he's one of those guys who will be out there a year after he should heve retired.
meanwhile, enjoy his incendiary self.
Feel-good story: With rehab right on schedule, Harrison looks to the future
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