Originally Posted by Patspsycho

Brace is behind Wilfork, Warren, Green, and Wright who are not too bad in their own right.

The point I am trying to make is just because a player is seemingly benched while others jump over him on the depth chart does not always translate into a lost cause.

Originally Posted by BionicPatriot

What if, if, Pryor is just having a shockingly ly effective season and we give him credit instead of hold it against Brace? I mean man, you guys know how to take the good and twist it into some kind of negativity. "Pryor's good, but man that must mean Brace sucks!"

I'm not thrilled at Brace's season either. But to call him a bust is silly. That's like me saying Eugene Wilson was a HOFer after two excellent years to begin his career.

Maybe Brace is behind Pryor because he's a slow learner and Pryor is that good. We can't make this conclusion yet. We can't say Brace sucks for the same reason we couldn't call Eugene Wilson a HOFer. You honestly can't give an honest evaluation on a draft pick unless they're 3+ year into their career or near the end of their tenure with a team.

I'm not blindly defending Bill, I have no reason because it damn sure wouldn't help me sleep at night. I'm simply saying give the kid time. Also, enough with all the BB sucks at drafting. Show me a team that's drafted a lot better than the Patriots since 2001.

Originally Posted by Sicilian

They also drafted Butler, Chung, and Vollmer in that same second round, who have all been contributing.

Looks better when you don't cherry pick the facts, doesn't it?

Second rounders are generally a 50/50 shot anyway, otherwise they would be 1st rounders. BB is pretty close to that ratio I believe, and his 1st round track record is exceptional (especially considering he generally drafts in the later half).

Originally Posted by chowda

They also passed up Clay Matthews. I'll take him over 2 mediocre DB's who are being roasted weekly.

Originally Posted by tanked_as_usual

the fact that he is getting nowhere near the field and titus adams is getting reps says something bad about brace.

Originally Posted by tanked_as_usual

you forgot to mention pryor and adams on that list

fact is, he ain't doing anything.........as the great bill parcells said 'potential means you ain't done nothing yet'

fact is, if he had anything to offer, practice squad guys like titus adams would not be jumping over him.

even without any grasp of the defense, if the guy had it in his body, he could go in there and clog up the middle on 5-10 plays per game. the fact that titus adams gets reps after getting called up, says there are reps to be had, but he's nowhere to be found......a healthy scratch

Originally Posted by Patspsycho

James Harrison received almost zero reps his first year.