PatsWorldChamps

I was just looking at our draft picks, and the associated value... Going strictly off a value chart, we could trade our top 5 picks ( a 1, 2, 3, 3, and 4)
and move up to #6 overall...

Just curious, as a fun poll:

IF a seymour-clone (a real, SciFi Clone, not the common usage of the term clone as it is used on football players) was there at #6 (an exact clone of RS as a rookie, who would be guaranteed to have the EXACT career of RS), would you trade our top 5 picks for that guy?

BelichickFan

It would be tempting if we could guarantee he'd come through, as your question seems to imply, but this is a very deep draft so that's too many picks for me to trade.

Mike the Brit

Trading for a player and paying him are two different things. Look at Seymour. He's still on his first contract but he is our third-highest cap cost -- $7.4m (and I don't think anyone thinks that WMcG's higher figure is realistic).

OK, so Seymour's contract was re-done after a hold-out and he is four years in, but still the point remains: top ten draft picks get expensive contracts with no guarantee that they will pay off. Ty Warren, whom we drafted in the teens, has a $2.2m number.

So is it a good idea to use so much ammunition to move up? Given the uncertainties, I really, really doubt it.

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mgteich

I voted yes because you said we would be guaranteed results. Obviously that is not the case.

AndyJohnson

My opinion is that this would be a TERRIBLE trade. Possibly worst ever.

We will get a quality player with our #1. We have almost always gotten a solid player with our second pick. The other 3, based on history should produce anywhere from 1-3 solid players and most likely at least 1 starter.

There is not a player in this draft, or any other that is worth that much. (I'd say Brady is but hindsight is 20/20 we are talking about a draft pick and the uncertain of what he will become.)

RayClay

Didn't know the technology had proceeded that far.

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PatsWorldChamps

I agree i would not trade the picks for whichever "unknown" is drafted in #6 this year.

My question (and i was very clear, but i knew people would end up changing it) was: you ARE GUARANTEED an EXACT seymour. There is NO unknown involved. That exact seymour would have the EXACT same career, health, attitude, etc.

PatsWorldChamps

Thanks for at least reading it correctly

If you can clone the dude, then you could also guarantee the results

AndyJohnson

My answer is the same.
We drafted
Mankins, Warren, Graham, Watson, Wilfork with our recent #1s.
The other 4 picks, 2s-5s have netted us players such as Light, Kaczur, Koppen, Branch, Hill, Green, Klecko, Samuel, Wilson, Scott, Hobbs.

There is no way 4 players of that caliber (assuming even 2 of the 4 make it) are worth upgrading from Warren or Wilfork to Seymour.

A huge chunk of our team is made up of 2nd-5th ruond picks by BB. I think he needs to continue the plan of GAINING picks in those rounds rather than giving them up.

PATSNUTme

NO NO NO NO NO!