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Old 12-06-2009, 06:33 PM   #1
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This goes out to the long time Pats' fans. I am not jumping on the team or criticizing. It's just a rather obvious observation, and then question to the rest of you.

I've been following the Patriots since day one. I never remember, EVER, a Patriots team applying less pressure on the QB.

It's rather pathetic in a sense. The QBs are back there, and there is sometimes ZERO pressure for long periods of time.

The reflex reaction is to say, "look at that darned lousy secondary", but to me it's glaringly the fault of the non-QB pressure. Henne and others this year drop back, look left, look right, shuffle a bit, break out a sandwich, listens to his IPOD, and then finds an open receiver.

My question, does anybody remember a year in the Pats history, when they applied less pressure? I know they are 13th out of 16th in sacks in the AFC, but I don't even mean just statistically. Just overall, I personally can't remember the opposing QBs sitting in the pockets for as long, play after play, as they are this year. What about the rest of you?
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Old 12-06-2009, 06:34 PM   #2
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Does anyone know if its the pass rush and were just not blitzing. All I remember is 3 or 4 man rushes with no added rushers...
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Does anyone know if its the pass rush and were just not blitzing. All I remember is 3 or 4 man rushes with no added rushers...
They blitzed a few times today to no effect.
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This goes out to the long time Pats' fans. I am not jumping on the team or criticizing. It's just a rather obvious observation, and then question to the rest of you.

I've been following the Patriots since day one. I never remember, EVER, a Patriots team applying less pressure on the QB.

It's rather pathetic in a sense. The QBs are back there, and there is sometimes ZERO pressure for long periods of time.

The reflex reaction is to say, "look at that darned lousy secondary", but to me it's glaringly the fault of the non-QB pressure. Henne and others this year drop back, look left, look right, shuffle a bit, break out a sandwich, listens to his IPOD, and then finds an open receiver.

My question, does anybody remember a year in the Pats history, when they applied less pressure? I know they are 13th out of 16th in sacks in the AFC, but I don't even mean just statistically. Just overall, I personally can't remember the opposing QBs sitting in the pockets for as long, play after play, as they are this year. What about the rest of you?
Been here since '60 and you're right on the money.
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The good blitzing teams run a lot of stunts and do overloading. Banta-Cain ran a nice stunt when he got his sack. We don't really have a secondary that can be used in blitzing like we did when we had Law, Samuel, Harrison, etc... We did a few blitzes with the secondary against the Saints last week and Brees killed us for it. I think Belichick just doesn't trust this defense enough to do anymore than contain, keep the QB in the pocket and hope the secondary can make enough plays to keep the scores low. Overall ... it has worked ... the offense just hasn't pulled their share of the load in our losses.
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there is no pass rush, and that is fault of coaching ... we tend to alway seem to make the HOF and not so HOF Qb's look great, but this is the worst Ive seen it in years...
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Why are all the threads about criticizing the offense being closed? There are at least 4 on the current page closed now, most that were 5-star threads with 30+ comments.

It's pretty ridiculous that this site isn't even allowing free discussion as it pertains to the offense.
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Why are all the threads about criticizing the offense being closed? There are at least 4 on the current page closed now, most that were 5-star threads with 30+ comments.

It's pretty ridiculous that this site isn't even allowing free discussion as it pertains to the offense.
I think it's just an attempt to stop millions of new threads, not to protect any particular department's feelings.
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I don't know. I thought it was pretty bad last year. Seems like it was pretty easy for opponents to complete 3rd and long at will
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I don't know. I thought it was pretty bad last year. Seems like it was pretty easy for opponents to complete 3rd and long at will
Absolutely. This is the second year of "no pressure." We significantly upgraded our secondary, but they can't cover for 5 seconds.

It's getting ridiculous when even blitzes can't get there.
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