DougFlutie

The thing is many fans will point to how the offense can't be at fault since they are so good at generating yards (in the 1st half).

supafly

The last sentence is important, and makes a lot of sense to your case.

My point is that besides a mistake or 2 on offense, are you really not going to expect some stops at times for Miami? If they kick the FG that's 24 pts they scored today + moved the ball all over the field at times.

Is the defense really impressing you? If we had any kind of defense at all, they'd have never let IND back into it, they'd never have blown leads of 17, 14, 10, etc. I agree that the offense needs more work, but in a game where you move the ball as well as today, what do you really want from them?

I can see if TB had a bad day, couldn't hit anyone. I'd agree if Moss couldn't get open like v. NYJ, or if Wes wasn't himself. I'd agree if Aiken didn't contribute, or if the o-line looked real bad. But that didn't happen today, at least not more than any other average game.

I respect your opinion, but in a short week where we didn't have as much time to prepare--I still think the offense did an alright job. It's the defense who is getting ripped apart, and doesn't provide too many good things.

MoLewisrocks

Were they the guys who decided to not go for it on 4th and inches only to go for it on 4th and long in chipshot FG range...no, I didn't think so.

Were they the ones who allowed Miami to drive the field repeatedly in the second and fourth quarters converting on multiple 4th downs...no, I didn't think so.

This offense has no margin because of the defense in transition (no that the one that preceeded it wasn't worth replacing...). Unfortunately they don't have the weapons to deal with teams who even periodically succeed in taking away moss and welker. They cannot or willnot commit to running the ball either, and I think that is personnel related on a couple of levels and has been for three seasons now.

DougFlutie

You're blaming this on lack of offensive talent???

This offense had a huge margin to win this game, not a thin margin, had multiple opportunities.

The defense came up big in the 2nd half, you can't expect them to not give up a FG through nearly 2 quarters.

Crennel and Weiss had something like 20+ years of NFL experience before becoming coordinators. Pees came straight from college. O'Brien came straight from college. Neither did diddly while even in college, and yet they were given the keys to major units in the NFL.

These coordinators did not pay their due like others have done... and it shows.

supafly

My point is that everyone contributed, and did it pretty well at times. When your QB does his job, the WR do their jobs, the O-line does their jobs, etc--what else did you want?

The game would've been won without the INT in the EZ, I understand. Or even with the FG, but do you really need to score 24 pts to get a win every time?

With the numbers thing, I am likening the argument to that of this example:

"TBC did great today, he had 2 1/2 sacks, did a great job of rushing the QB, etc. Butler had a couple of key passes defended, Bodden had an INT. McGowan made some real key hits, and caused a fumble. The D line was very productive, and AD looked a lot better too. Woods had 7 tackles, and a strip sack, etc----------but....we came up short"

That would prove at least the defense did their jobs, etc, but didn't get the breaks today. My point is that the offense may not have been what you wanted, but they didn't look as bad either. They were the ones who put up good numbers and had production but didnt get the breaks today.

okterrific

The people saying it's "on the offense", what they really mean is, we know the defense sucks so it's always up to the offense to score 30+ if they want to win. In the grand scheme of things, it's the defense.

crowell33

Its the offense.

DougFlutie

You can't blame the defense for every loss just because the opposition scored more points in a loss.


This offense is like A-Rod before Kate Hudson.

patsinthesnow

It's obvious we must put in BJGE, Hoyer, and Nunn for the first quarter.

DougFlutie

Did they do their jobs in the 2nd half? Hardly.