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Old 01-18-2006, 09:04 PM   #1
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I know this has been discussed but I just watched this play several times on the NFL network G.O.T.W. I'm not clear on the rule as to what happens when a player bobbles the ball on a fair catch. From what I understand the player has to have free access to catch the ball if bobbled prior to it hitting the ground and without advancing it. The replay clearly shows Troy signalling fair catch....ball hitting his chest and arms..... bouncing slightly in air...then coming back into his hands...as it's coming into his hands Denver defender reaches in and deflects ball.....clearly this should have been fair catch interference....or am I mistaken. Anyone else see it this way??
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Old 01-18-2006, 09:49 PM   #2
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I'll have to take a look at the tape when I get a chance.
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I know this has been discussed but I just watched this play several times on the NFL network G.O.T.W. I'm not clear on the rule as to what happens when a player bobbles the ball on a fair catch. From what I understand the player has to have free access to catch the ball if bobbled prior to it hitting the ground and without advancing it. The replay clearly shows Troy signalling fair catch....ball hitting his chest and arms..... bouncing slightly in air...then coming back into his hands...as it's coming into his hands Denver defender reaches in and deflects ball.....clearly this should have been fair catch interference....or am I mistaken. Anyone else see it this way??

You hit the nail on the head--just another bad call in a long list over the weekend! The difference is though, that our season is over!
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as it's coming into his hands Denver defender reaches in and deflects ball.....
OMG, you are blind. You people are on acid.

pats1 is a total coward, spineless, bastard, that owes me his signature.

"I'll pay up when the Broncos beat the Pats without the help of the refs" -pats1, a pathetic excuse for a fan of football.
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(Did the Broncos do a terrific job of banging bodies, punishing Brady, avoiding turnovers and taking advantage of mistakes? Absolutely. They were a better football team on Saturday night. But I will go to my grave wondering what would have happened if Kevin Faulking Faulk didn't fumble with 1:54 remaining in the first half. All season long, this Broncos team was fearing a situation in which Plummer had to make plays in the second half to win a game for them. The Pats were one more quarter away from making that happen. And they blew it. Aaaaaaargh. I can't talk about it anymore.) - Bill Simmons
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OMG, you are blind. You people are on acid.

pats1 is a total coward, spineless, bastard, that owes me his signature.

"I'll pay up when the Broncos beat the Pats without the help of the refs" -pats1, a pathetic excuse for a fan of football.
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I'm sorry, but you are clueless. Go learn the rules before you show your face back here.
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I'm sorry, but you are clueless. Go learn the rules before you show your face back here.
I know the rules, it was probably FC interference, but he was behind him, and had NOTHING to do with the fumble itself, there is no way the ref is gonna throw that flag. No fkn way dude.

From Bill Simmons - Again, the Patriots deserved to lose. They were terrible.

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Bronco Freak....not blind...in fact saw the play very clearly and have watched it about a thousand times on tivo. Fact is you'll see it your way and we'll see it our way. Can we at least agree there was some very questionable officiating this past weekend? Be that as it may...we made some big mistakes, you guys took advantage of them and helped cause some of them....what a winning team does! congrats. No sour grapes from me as we've been on the favorable end of many a questionable call over the years....and victimized as well on some. It all works out in the wash. Our season is over, so all we have for right now is discussing the Denver game before moving on to preparing for next season.
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Of all the turnovers on Saturday the one that was most warned of was that of rookie kick returner Ellis Hobb's. Leading up to the game the only glaring question mark in the possible turnover derby was the unknown of the rookie Hobbs returning kicks on the road, in prime time playoff pressure football. To BB's credit, he had the history of no kickoff return turnovers over a span of 10 playoff games, thanks mostly to the steady play of Patrick Pass and one-time rookie Bethel Johnson. However, you have to believe Saturday's avalanche of turnovers, rookies included, was a prime example that
bad play and bad bounces will eventually occur, no matter how well you are playing or well good fortune shined on you previously.
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(Did the Broncos do a terrific job of banging bodies, punishing Brady, avoiding turnovers and taking advantage of mistakes? Absolutely. They were a better football team on Saturday night. But I will go to my grave wondering what would have happened if Kevin Faulking Faulk didn't fumble with 1:54 remaining in the first half. All season long, this Broncos team was fearing a situation in which Plummer had to make plays in the second half to win a game for them. The Pats were one more quarter away from making that happen. And they blew it. Aaaaaaargh. I can't talk about it anymore.) - Bill Simmons
He contradicts himself in that statement... he claims the Broncos were the better football team, and then procedes to describe how the Broncos were two minutes away from becoming desperate... how the hell do those two go together?

I have no issue with the Broncos winning the game. The Patriots certainly didn't deserve to win after 5 turnovers. But I do have an issue with 'the Broncos being the better team', and I always will. They were handed that game by the turnovers (which they either didn't force or only had a minimal part in forcing), and as somebody put it, "just happened to be the team the Patriots were playing".

As for the Brown call, sure it could have been FCI, which is interesting since I didn't notice at all at the time. But it's completely Brown's fault that he missed the catch in the first place, and it was so close that there's no way the ref could have called it. Sorry guys, but this one isn't in the same class as the PI, touchback, etc.

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