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Old 01-17-2006, 10:32 AM   #1
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No way is Mangini ready to be a head coach, and BB knows it. While I'm sure BB is disappointed to lose his promising young coordinator, I'll bet he's happy Mangini is landing with the Jets. Mangini was a gifted work-in-progress as defensive coordinator, but a WORK IN PROGRESS nonetheless. Plus, he has no expertise on the offensive side of the ball. If I were a Jets fan, I'd be tearing my hair out and screaming for Bradway's lynching. The Jets need stability, and won't get it with a green kid (no pun intended) like Eric. For more, check out this snippet from today's Herald:

Despite the deal, questions remain regarding Mangini’s readiness to become a head coach. According to Patriots sources, he wasn’t always a take-charge type during defensive meetings this season, his first as defensive coordinator after five coaching the secondary.

During the first half of the season in particular, a source said, he often acted more like he still had his old job than his new one.

The result was a defensive game plan that minimized exposing the patchwork secondary at the expense of aggressiveness up front. The Patriots were ranked 31st in overall defense (386.3 yards per game) when the decision came to turn loose the front seven before the Dec. 4 game against the Jets. Tellingly, that decision came not from Mangini but frustrated head coach Bill Belichick. The result was one of the best defensive units in the league over the final six weeks of the season.
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Old 01-17-2006, 10:37 AM   #2
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It would be easy for people (read: jester fans) to dismiss this as the Patriots piling on a guy who's leaving but we all remember the not so subtle statements by Seymour (and maybe others) about how they'd been asking for more aggressive defenses and that they (the coaches) finally listened.

Reading between the lines and putting 2 and 2 together it sounds like the defensive leaders went to Bill and told him to get Mangini's ***** together.
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I think it's easy to get carried away with this stuff.

I'm sure Mangini will be an improvement over Herm, and he's very qualified in many ways. True, he could run into setbacks that he'll need to overcome, but assumming he'll do poorly is probably just projecting your dissappointment onto the Jets. He is considered a top young mind and I'm sure he'll be able to get help where he needs it.

I say just wish him well and let's see what happens. I think he'll improve the Jets but the Pats will still be better.
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Interesting--I am gonna go read that article!
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I think it's easy to get carried away with this stuff.

I'm sure Mangini will be an improvement over Herm, and he's very qualified in many ways. True, he could run into setbacks that he'll need to overcome, but assumming he'll do poorly is probably just projecting your dissappointment onto the Jets. He is considered a top young mind and I'm sure he'll be able to get help where he needs it.

I say just wish him well and let's see what happens. I think he'll improve the Jets but the Pats will still be better.
Assuming Mangini will be an improvement over Herm is a huge stretch. Herm was a master motivator, while reports suggest that Mangini is very bright but didn't have a firm grasp of leadership. That's because of youth and inexperience. Certainly I'm disappointed he's leaving, as he showed promise of developing into a solid No. 2 guy behind BB. But the Jets need a guy like Fassell to sort through their mess, not an unproven kid, however smart he might be. Why do you wish him well? I sure don't!
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I very much agree with Tunescribe's assessment of Mangini, but also with the shocking truth that even so, he's still an up grade from the (not so) Herminator......
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But you aren't afforded the luxury of on-the-job training in New York. The gutter is littered with failed experiments there.

Think about it...Parcells (love him or hate him) along with BB, couldn't win a super bowl in New York. And that's with a much better cap situation, a good core of players, and players plucked from the mid-90's Patriots (Curtis Martin in his prime).

I kind of feel like I'm getting ready to watch an awful train wreck. If it wasn't the Jets, I'd look away...
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You have to respect Mangini for attempting to rise to the challenge of becoming a HC of a franchise in an intense market, that is in a state of disaray. However, if that snippet that was in the Herald was true, that he lacked in leadership, then he's going to have a tough time succeeding.
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I agree with the train wreck assessment! I don't envy him having to rebuild that program. I wish him the best, but it would not surprise me to see him back with BB after this.......
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He had to take the job. The deal is for something like $3M. If someone offers you a 2000% raise, you take it.
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