Sam Hunt

Just to add some more perspective that I always bring up to remind people that the Pats haven't always rolled over teams in the SB years..even in December.

Going into week 14 in 2001 season the Pats were 8-5 playing in Buffalo who was a meager 2-11. In overtime with the score tied 9-9, David Patten caught a pass near midfield and was knocked unconcious and dropped the ball. The Bills recovered however the play was reviewed and the ball was given back to the Pats because Patten's unconcious head was contacting the sideline while his leg was touching the ball. the next play Antowain Smith ran for 30+ yds and Vinitieri then kicked the winning FG.

NE finished 11-5 and won a tie breaker with Miami to win the division and get a bye.

PATSNUTme

This is just a copy and paste job from a thread that you started right after the Colts game and was deleted.

I know that some of the posters here want you to be banned but being an idiot is not a bannable offense. However I can knock you off this thread.

PATSNUTme

Use the ignore feature for these guys.

I look back fondly on the times when I could do that. And when a nonsense post was made by them, all I saw was a little strip saying that the poster was dead to me.

PATRIOTSFANINPA

In think we can all honestly agree deep down inside that this team is lacking in some areas and the talent level has been better in some areas in the past and that this team is a very good but not an elite team but is also a team who has a chance to still win its division and start at 0-0 the first week of January,just like all the other 12 participants in the SB pool and have a shot to get the job done if they play well when its do or die time.

We can all agree with this I assume

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wilfork is beastin'

agreed. This is a good football team. Not elite, but capable of making a run in the playoffs.

TommyBrady12

you guys all make good points. The real question is, even if what you say is true and that the pats can turn it on in December and make a big playoff run, do they have the players to do so? I mean our offensive line and secondary need to get better real fast. I'm not sure if Vollmer coming back is going to solve anything.

The problem with the oline is that BB has not addressed that position until he drafted Vollmer this year. We have the same old country boys up front who have lost a step or two.

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"He’s the greatest quarterback to ever play the game. He goes from being a rookie that nobody is expecting anything from, to taking over with people saying he can’t do it, to winning three Super Bowls....It should already be obvious he’s the greatest quarterback to ever have played. "

- Steelers S Troy Polamalu on Tom Brady

mgteich

Yes, we are a team with an outside chance at winning the Superbowl. We have a stronger team than many past Super Bowl winner.

We are where most of us expected us to be at this point. Of course, some of think that we might be better off with Seymour and Hobbs on the squad, and with better scheming by our coordinators.

PATRIOTSFANINPA

I have really felt better when I say and suggest all of you today take a deep breath and say the following.....

We're all 0-0 in January,We're all 0-0 in January,We're all 0-0 in January.......

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The Dynasty

Yeah, but the problems need to be addressed before then. We need to see improvements in the next 5 games. The Pats are a good team, they beat the teams they are supposed to beat, but they arent a great team because they cant beat the teams they arent supposed to beat.

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condon84

The OP asked the question of what those teams had in common and I think he tried to say our current Pats team can emulate what they did. All those teams had bad stretches and but went on a great run to the SB. However, I contended that those teams had one thing in common that we do not have, they all had a great pass rush. Are you trying to say the Giants didn't havea great pass rush? You must have been watching a different team than I was.

Although Manning sucked for the most part of the year and Coughlin was portrayed as a nut prompting everyone to declare him the anti-christ, it still doesn't take away that the Giants had an insane front 4 that pressured teams.

Same with the Colts with Freeney and Pittsburg with Porter and their whole scheme.