Deion Sanders and Mariucci say Faulk got the first down! - Page 8 - New England Patriots Forums

DW Toys · 11-17-2009, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COLT FAN

The rulebook on the "Call"

a player must have complete control of the ball and have both feet completely on the ground inbounds or any other part of his body

A: He caught the ball, and bobbled it in the air.

B: Ergo, no part of his body touched the ground after the bobble UNTIL
he hit the ground on that side of the 4th down marker

C: Its a catch, but, you only get the yards from a bobble where you contact the ground after possession is re-established

D: Hence Turnover on Downs

Nice try. Not even close. That play is not a first down only in Indianapolis, not the rest of the world. An asterisk on that win.
DW Toys
P.S #79 Raheem Brock lined up off-sides in the neutral zone. Look at trhe video. The ball was at the 28.5 yard line. Kopen tilts it back to snap it and #79 is illegal. Brock's set hand is definable off-sides. And as for you Mr. Rule Book-As per the NFL:Neutral Zone: The space the length of a ball between the two scrimmage lines. The offensive team and defensive team must remain behind their end of the ball.
Exception: The offensive player who snaps the ball.

i.e. First down NE, Neutral Zone infraction.

You Polian influenced Ref can see a ball through a players body to see a catch, but can't look down the line of scrimmage? ....Nice! Double asterisk!

The double edged Polian "Gotcha"

Pats726 · 11-17-2009, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DW Toys

Nice try. Not even close. That play is not a first down only in Indianapolis, not the rest of the world. An asterisk on that win.
DW Toys
P.S #79 Raheem Brock lined up off-sides in the neutral zone. Look at trhe video. The ball was at the 28.5 yard line. Kopen tilts it back to snap it and #79 is illegal. Brock's set hand is definable off-sides. And as for you Mr. Rule Book-As per the NFL:Neutral Zone: The space the length of a ball between the two scrimmage lines. The offensive team and defensive team must remain behind their end of the ball.
Exception: The offensive player who snaps the ball.

i.e. First down NE, Neutral Zone infraction.

You Polian influenced Ref can see a ball through a players body to see a catch, but can't look down the line of scrimmage? ....Nice! Double asterisk!

The double edged Polian "Gotcha"

NYou are right...it's not close...if one looks at the replay, he caught teh ball, bobbled it and when that happened, his feet were planted on the ground...ON the OTHER side of the 30...ERGO FIRST DOWN!!! The officials totally botched it and did not even TRY to get it correct.

RhodyPatriot · 11-17-2009, 09:36 PM

Agreed! Faulk did make the 1st down. The Patriots also got screwed on the annual 4th quarter phantom pass interference call. Every year that happens and it always goes Indys way. Call it the PoliOn effect.