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Old 11-06-2009, 03:44 PM   #11
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While I don't believe this was posted by either Mike or Chris, I'm not sure it's as an egregious case of plagiarism as Florio makes it out to be. Whether MDS, Ron Borges, Barack Obama, or anyone else wrote it, it's mainly composed of quotes from Joey Porter. MDS/PFT don't own Porter's quotes, they only own everything in between.
I agree but word-for-word? Anyway you slice it, it's lazy and completely unaccpetable.
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Old 11-06-2009, 03:45 PM   #12
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I agree but word-for-word? Anyway you slice it, it's lazy and completely unaccpetable.
Definitely, but it's not as bad as say, Borges' case (which he/Globe claimed was acceptable because the Seattle author took it from an AP pool report) or Powers' case at the T&G.
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Definitely, but it's not as bad as say, Borges' case (which he/Globe claimed was acceptable because the Seattle author took it from an AP pool report) or Powers' case at the T&G.
I agree. 10 chars
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Forsberg was doing a few other articles on Porter, but it was from "ESPN staff" so it was probably one of the interns.
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Eh....I think it's much ado about nothing. It's not like it's an opinion piece written by Smith. It's just an informative piece about what Joey Porter said on NFL Network. It is lazy on the part of ESPN and their staff, but Florio is clutching for straws here.
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Eh....I think it's much ado about nothing. It's not like it's an opinion piece written by Smith. It's just an informative piece about what Joey Porter said on NFL Network. It is lazy on the part of ESPN and their staff, but Florio is clutching for straws here.
Disagree. Plagiarism is plagiarism. That's all there is to it.
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My bad I should have read Chris's articule fully.

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While I don't believe this was posted by either Mike or Chris, I'm not sure it's as an egregious case of plagiarism as Florio makes it out to be. Whether MDS, Ron Borges, Barack Obama, or anyone else wrote it, it's mainly composed of quotes from Joey Porter. MDS/PFT don't own Porter's quotes, they only own everything in between.
I agree -- the PFT post was just a write-up of an interview Rich Eisen did on the NFL network.

In a news-wire bit like this, it's the original reporting that matters, not the smattering of connecting words you add to it. It's still not OK for ESPN to just cut and paste it, but it seems pretty chintzy for Florio to get up on his soapbox when all his employee was doing was trying to nab a few pageviews by transcribing something off the TV.
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I agree -- the PFT post was just a write-up of an interview Rich Eisen did on the NFL network.

In a news-wire bit like this, it's the original reporting that matters, not the smattering of connecting words you add to it. It's still not OK for ESPN to just cut and paste it, but it seems pretty chintzy for Florio to get up on his soapbox when all his employee was doing was trying to nab a few pageviews by transcribing something off the TV.
Nah, it was a chance to tweak the high and mighty ESPN which makes its own rules, as in we're too highbrow to even mention the allegations and lawsuit versus Big Ben despite the fact it was everywhere else. First rule of journalism is not to plagiarize anything more than 7 words in a row is suspect. Here the guy took 5 paragraphs word for word......Likely an ex-intern now.....
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so was it Reiss or Chris Forsberg? I hope it wasn't Reiss. I like him. But the screen cap did say that both were contributors to the piece.l
The responsibilities of posting news on ESPN Boston goes well beyond Chris or Mike. There's a lots of generic reporters on ESPN staff that are typically supposed to steal news they find elsewhere and tweak it just enough so it can be posted on their website.

I'd guess that's the case here - except it was a cut and paste.

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