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***robertweathers*** · 11-03-2009, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks

Cowher has long been rumored to be patiently awating John Fox's demise in Carolina. That day is likely at hand. Lerner is a real putz of an owner easily swayed by outside influences and perceptions and I doubt Cowher would want to be facing his beloved Steelers (not to mention the Ravens and a resurgent Bengals) 6 times a year with no infrastructure whatsoever and a gutted roster backed up by that level of ownership.

I could on the other hand see someone like Parcell's penciling them in as his next target. If Lerner has enough cash to cover his expenses...while paying off 2 former HC's and GM's. Lerner needs infrastructure. That's Bill's specialty.

I believe it was last year or two years ago that Cowher built a house in NC. His daughters (one for sure) goes to school @ NC State. It's a matter of time before hes leading the Panthers...

Not sure about the Tuna deal. By all accounts, hes enjoying the Miami experience. The owner seems to be letting him do whatever. However, I did read from an non-credible source that Tuna was annoyed with all the celebrities now being part-owners...Who knows..

***MoLewisrocks*** · 11-03-2009, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by robertweathers

I believe it was last year or two years ago that Cowher built a house in NC. His daughters (one for sure) goes to school @ NC State. It's a matter of time before hes leading the Panthers...

Not sure about the Tuna deal. By all accounts, hes enjoying the Miami experience. The owner seems to be letting him do whatever. However, I did read from an non-credible source that Tuna was annoyed with all the celebrities now being part-owners...Who knows..

He doesn't like the new owner and he had a clause put in his contract that said if Wayne sold he could walk away with full pay any time he chose to. He likes to rebuild infranstructure and turn things around. He doesn't tend to want to hang around long enough that people start asking so where's the Lombardi...like in NY or Dallas. In this division his work is done...In Cleveland he would be treated like a God and given at least another couple of years to make them at least competitive. Plus he'd be double dipping.

***MoLewisrocks*** · 11-03-2009, 01:29 PM

Mangini is either delusional or Lerner is an even bigger sucker than most people presume...

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"I can tell you that, for a variety of reasons," Mangini said in remarks shown during ESPN's SportsCenter, "things didn't work out. And you never go into a situation like this with the intention of it not working out. But we felt that organizationally this was the best decision in order to move forward."

But what didn't work out? Was it Kokinis who decided to keep quarterback Derek Anderson and Brady Quinn? Was it Kokinis who picked Quinn as the Week One starter? Was it Kokinis who decided to bench him after only ten quarters?

Was it Kokinis who decided to trade Braylon Edwards? Was it Kokinis who decided to round up a bunch of Jets players who were good enough to get Mangini fired in New York?

And how can Mangini stand at a podium and say he has "respect" for his "friend" amid unrebutted reports that Kokinis was fired "with cause"?

As we pointed out last night, the Browns had to give Kokinis final say over the roster and the draft in order to hire him away from the Ravens. Kokinis apparently believed that the contract meant what it said. Mangini apparently believed that he was still calling the shots.

And it apparently went downhill from "hello."

Given that Mangini and Kokinis were close friends before attempting earlier this year to coexist professionally, it's hard to imagine anyone other than an even closer friend of Mangini's faring any better.

A better question might be who the hell is this WE Eric keeps referring to and what makes anyone think he has any remaining better friends who might be willing to work with a backstabbing career killer...

Mangini on Kokinis: "Things didn't work out" | ProFootballTalk.com

Oceanviewer1 · 11-03-2009, 04:13 PM

With everything that has gone on with Mangini, I find it very hard to believe that he and Belichick could co-exist in NE for such a long period of time

***KontradictioN*** · 11-03-2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks

Mangini is either delusional or Lerner is an even bigger sucker than most people presume...

A better question might be who the hell is this WE Eric keeps referring to and what makes anyone think he has any remaining better friends who might be willing to work with a backstabbing career killer...

Mangini on Kokinis: "Things didn't work out" | ProFootballTalk.com

I cannot wait until Kokinis opens up his mouth about this for the first time to the national media. I can all but guaruntee that Mangini threw him under the bus in order to save his job. What a piece of garbage he is.