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Scouse Patriot · 10-27-2009, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by gomezcat

Couldn't agree more. I'm agreeing with a Scouser. What is the world coming to?

It's because you know who the bigger force is after sunday.

patsfaninpittsburgh · 10-27-2009, 10:52 AM

Our football has the advantage of being the truly superior sport.

Soccer can only be "enjoyable" if your other option is to have a root canal without novacaine.

Besides, I would think just the number of Americans in Europe would make one game per year a sellout.

Has anybody ever watched soccer faint in pain and see those clowns fake an injury during contact?

The World Cup can end in a shootout or whatever they call that ?

What's up with that?

Big-T · 10-27-2009, 11:16 AM

Reading some of the comments on this site do the Americans think only Soccer is watched in the UK? because there's 2 types of Rugby (League & Union) that a lot of people watch, cricket which is watched by probably nearly as many people as Soccer, as well as less common occuring sports which attract decent crowds.

Football does have an advantage over Soccer with it being physical and no players rolling around on the floor pretending to be injured, or acting like they've been shot, but Rugby has the same advantages in that respect.

Based on what people over here say, people don't like/watch Football because it's "too slow" or "because they wear too much padding" etc, and that's what the NFL will have to get round to make the sport a big player in the UK sports scene.

oldskool138 · 10-27-2009, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Big-T

Based on what people over here say, people don't like/watch Football because it's "too slow" or "because they wear too much padding" etc, and that's what the NFL will have to get round to make the sport a big player in the UK sports scene.

Well, considering football was almost banned in the US (back in the early 1900's) because of all the injuries and deaths that were happening pre-pads, I doubt the NFL or players union would sanction a padless NFL game.

patsfaninpittsburgh · 10-27-2009, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by oldskool138

Well, considering football was almost banned in the US (back in the early 1900's) because of all the injuries and deaths that were happening pre-pads, I doubt the NFL or players union would sanction a padless NFL game.

I wonder how many guys would like to encounter Big Vince on the pitch with zero pads?

Perhaps a few years back- Beckham vs Rodney?

My guess is it all comes down to the two fanbases having no clue what they are actually watching.

Covert · 10-28-2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by patsfaninpittsburgh

I wonder how many guys would like to encounter Big Vince on the pitch with zero pads?

Perhaps a few years back- Beckham vs Rodney?

My guess is it all comes down to the two fanbases having no clue what they are actually watching.

Now I'm a football fan, but you should watch some high-level rugby union sometime. Those guys tackle as hard as football players and with much better form. The big guys aren't as big (300 pounds, tops), but top-level locks, loose forwards and three-quarters have all the physical attributes to make *evil* football players. Incidentally, many of the best rugby players are, like Seau, able to trace their heritage back to Pacific Islanders...

But there are guys everywhere in top rugby who'd have made decent NFL prospects. Someone like Martin Johnson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_...n_(rugby_union)) - 6'6", 260lbs, can handle the ball at least as well as any NFL player, fiercely smart, and hits like a maniac. He'd be a world-class linebacker/FB/TE if he'd played football from an early age.

That's something which gets lost in the NFL-team-in-Europe discussion. If there's a team based here, and there's serious effort to mine the talent pool, there'll be more Vollmers and there'll be guys like Martin Johnson (or Jason White, 6'5"/240lb of hitting venom and former Scotland captain) who wind up playing NFL ball. It has a real chance to grow the talent pool.

Rossmci90 · 10-28-2009, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by patsfaninpittsburgh

I wonder how many guys would like to encounter Big Vince on the pitch with zero pads?

Perhaps a few years back- Beckham vs Rodney?

My guess is it all comes down to the two fanbases having no clue what they are actually watching.

Wilfork would be absolutely useless in a 'soccer' game.

Being a fan of both sports, i really hate the ignorant trash spouted by idiots like this guy on either side of the 'argument'. They're different sports, they require a different set of skills and body type. Get over it and stop being so childish.

Big-T · 10-28-2009, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Covert

Now I'm a football fan, but you should watch some high-level rugby union sometime. Those guys tackle as hard as football players and with much better form. The big guys aren't as big (300 pounds, tops), but top-level locks, loose forwards and three-quarters have all the physical attributes to make *evil* football players. Incidentally, many of the best rugby players are, like Seau, able to trace their heritage back to Pacific Islanders...

But there are guys everywhere in top rugby who'd have made decent NFL prospects. Someone like Martin Johnson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_...n_(rugby_union)) - 6'6", 260lbs, can handle the ball at least as well as any NFL player, fiercely smart, and hits like a maniac. He'd be a world-class linebacker/FB/TE if he'd played football from an early age.

That's something which gets lost in the NFL-team-in-Europe discussion. If there's a team based here, and there's serious effort to mine the talent pool, there'll be more Vollmers and there'll be guys like Martin Johnson (or Jason White, 6'5"/240lb of hitting venom and former Scotland captain) who wind up playing NFL ball. It has a real chance to grow the talent pool.

Then from the other code of Rugby there's:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Taylor_(rugby_league)
who NFL teams were scouting until he signed for the Rabbitohs, and Willie Mason, another Australia international who was in the Jets training camp a few years back as a defensive end.

Although to say Martin Johnson hit like a "maniac" is pretty poor considering a big hit in Union is nothing comapred to in League and the NFL (no shoulder charging...really?

) In fact didn't he play 1 game at TE for someone but left the game early because he couldn't handle it?

patsfaninpittsburgh · 10-28-2009, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rossmci90

Wilfork would be absolutely useless in a 'soccer' game.

Being a fan of both sports, i really hate the ignorant trash spouted by idiots like this guy on either side of the 'argument'. They're different sports, they require a different set of skills and body type. Get over it and stop being so childish.

Tampon on too tight?

Get a grip Maurice Ronald.

My point is that wearing "pads" doesn't make American football wussy.

Also, note the fanbase comments. Watching the "finer points" of soccer is as brain dead as reading your comments.

Kasmir · 10-28-2009, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by patsfaninpittsburgh

Tampon on too tight?

Get a grip Maurice Ronald.

My point is that wearing "pads" doesn't make American football wussy.

Also, note the fanbase comments. Watching the "finer points" of soccer is as brain dead as reading your comments.

What could possibly be the point of chastising UK American Football fans -- who are even NE Pats fans -- for not renouncing soccer? Are you practicing for a later go at Red Sox fans, perhaps?

Football American style happens to be the only professional sport I care to follow these days. I don't like soccer, but I don't much care for baseball or hockey either. Still, I don't feel a need to attack fans of other sports to justify my focus on football. I understand that some fans manage to care about more than one sport at a time.

Why are you picking such a pointless fight with fellow Patriot fans?